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Author Topic: minitrix or Fleischmann BR212 / V100  (Read 260 times)

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Offline retica

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minitrix or Fleischmann BR212 / V100
« on: August 29, 2018, 04:59:51 AM »
Hello, I am looking to buy a German DB BR212 / V100 either from minitrix or Fleischmann. Which one of these two manufacturers offers the better model ? Better as in better running, slower speed, better power pick-up ? Does any of these two manufacturer offer fly wheels in their BR212 ? I will use the model for a rebuild/repaint so I don't really care which one looks better or is more accurate, I only care for the running characteristics. Thanks for your help and input.

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Re: minitrix or Fleischmann BR212 / V100
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2018, 09:03:50 AM »
The latest Minitrix ones are better. The Fleischmann variants use their older 3 pole motor without a flywheel, but bought new are much cheaper than Minitrix. The most recent Minitrix ones have a flywheel. Maybe worth looking on the Minitrix and Fleischmann websites, or on a retail site such as DM-Toys?
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Re: minitrix or Fleischmann BR212 / V100
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2018, 09:13:35 AM »
I have V100s from Fleishmann, Minitrix and Arnold.       

My favourite are the Minitrix models, even old ones from the 70s and 80s are fine performers.   

I find the motor on the Fleischmann model can become a bit weak over time, it's a slightly smaller motor than other Fl locos and I suspect it looses magnetism.    I've just been working on a dead one sent over by a german friend, it turns out the motor had melted! He's going to try and find a 2nd hand replacement (new motors for these are 50-60 euros)

I can't remember a flywheel in any of my Fl or Mx V100s, but I believe current Minitrix models have a different motor with a flywheel formed as part of the worm at one end.
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Re: minitrix or Fleischmann BR212 / V100
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2018, 11:59:20 AM »
Thank you both for your input. I just bought a 2nd hand minitrix one on ebay for Euro 38 including shipping to NZ. I do not expect a miracle for that price but I saw the model has brass gears and with some fine tuning it should be perfect for my needs. And should it turn out to be a lemon I can always resell it here as New in box, hardly used, rare item  :dunce:

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Re: minitrix or Fleischmann BR212 / V100
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2018, 11:59:20 PM »
As with many Fleischmann model, their V100 tends to be a bit fickle, compared to the more 'robust' style of chassis from Minitrix and Arnold
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Re: minitrix or Fleischmann BR212 / V100
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2018, 04:33:33 PM »
I have V100s from all three makers. IMHO the latest Minitrix models are the best. I've had three Fleischmann models—two second hand; on one of these the motor burned out but the older one is OK. Also a new DCC-fitted 212 which is fine.

I've had two "old" (pre-1989 "made in Western Germany") Arnold models which have both developed a loud clicking noise as they move, like Farish "split gears" although both still work in both directions. No "new" Arnold however.

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Re: minitrix or Fleischmann BR212 / V100
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2018, 05:47:52 PM »
I've had two "old" (pre-1989 "made in Western Germany") Arnold models which have both developed a loud clicking noise as they move, like Farish "split gears" although both still work in both directions. No "new" Arnold however.

Probably split gears, unless these are the version with Simplex auto-coupling lifter mechanism?  If so they will click every revolution when running as the lifting spring runs off the cam.  Although it's a clever mechanism the clicking annoys me so I remove the spring.
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