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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #210 on: February 13, 2020, 12:31:21 AM »
It wasn't a slight on anyone who uses it, for me I don't think it looks very realistic, particularly the points, and you're limited on geometry, although I fully accept a lot can be done to blend it in to make it look better. I even said I accept the plain line looks quite a bit like RHB track. However, I was addressing Dawdawes's question about the most realistic looking track. And that is never Kato IMO.
I agree totally , we are all different, for me the Kato has never been my choice, I have on order a Tomix point and some straight track to try with a lower shoulder even have a bit of Fleischmann profi coming but then it's the horrid pointwork. I modelled an American z layout years a go and used Rokuhan ballasted  track and again the points let it down, other choices are Atlas code 55 with American sleeper spacing and peco code 55 , just trying to get a look of small rail height. Or spend big and use z track but then it's the points again, oh desicions desicions

Hi Dave,

Myself and my club colleague who have Unitrack RhB layouts that can be linked together (as we did at the ERA show and Boulogne sur Mer) tried Tomix and it provided less sure running that Unitrack


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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #211 on: February 13, 2020, 12:50:44 AM »
As you may recall I was one of the first people to build a layout for the Kato RhB stuff (7 years ago now!) so the photos of it are deep down somewhere in much earlier posts in this part of the Forum.

So here's a reminder of what my layout laid with Unitrack looks like



Great from a 'normal public' viewing distance

And here's a close up of the blended-in single track section . The bulk of the Code 80 rail is the most noticeable 'downside' thing perhaps

« Last Edit: February 13, 2020, 12:56:38 AM by Gordon »
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #212 on: February 13, 2020, 01:01:08 AM »
I contributed to a non-European-specific discussion about Unitrack elsewhere on this forum a few years ago, so I can re-post this shot I used as an example of the 'Kato Unitrack' actually in use on the BLS in Switzerland :)





and to show the ballast shoulder height, a section of the München - Nürnberg line






Straying off topic so will close now
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #213 on: February 14, 2020, 10:00:00 AM »
Thanks Gordon. Still trying some ideas, have some code 40 to try and a bit of atlas 55 coming. Layout will be a stand alone approx 16' in length , just had the first of my mds stock and a sound GE4/4 delivered, beautifull
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #214 on: February 14, 2020, 10:09:09 AM »
Atlas code 55 is very US style - the sleeper spacing is extremely close. I’d use Peco code 55 over Atlas.

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #215 on: February 14, 2020, 10:13:40 AM »
I am trying to get the look of narrow gauge sleepering, even might cut a slither of the sleeper length , it's all trail atm
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #216 on: February 18, 2020, 09:31:47 AM »
Well different tracks have arrived, the finescale code 40 is beautiful,  but time, cost and the fact MDS stock sits on the rail chairs, same with the atlas code 55, so rules those out. Fleischmann profi looks ok but the turnouts are a bit clunky. Waiting for Peco code 55 to try if not it will have to be Kato unitrack
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #217 on: February 19, 2020, 07:59:42 PM »
Well different tracks have arrived, the finescale code 40 is beautiful,  but time, cost and the fact MDS stock sits on the rail chairs, same with the atlas code 55, so rules those out. Fleischmann profi looks ok but the turnouts are a bit clunky. Waiting for Peco code 55 to try if not it will have to be Kato unitrack
Well the peco code 55 with unifrog points looks and works well, so that's the way for me, hoorah
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« Reply #218 on: February 20, 2020, 07:11:29 AM »
Well different tracks have arrived, the finescale code 40 is beautiful,  but time, cost and the fact MDS stock sits on the rail chairs, same with the atlas code 55, so rules those out. Fleischmann profi looks ok but the turnouts are a bit clunky. Waiting for Peco code 55 to try if not it will have to be Kato unitrack
Well the peco code 55 with unifrog points looks and works well, so that's the way for me, hoorah
I look forward to seeing how your layout progresses, now that you have made your track choice....
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #219 on: March 12, 2020, 01:44:33 PM »
Is there a coupler conversion for the standard n couplers, ie a smaller kato type coupler that would fit the MDS Ge 4/4 ll
I have converted my bernina and glacier to closer couplings but not the locos as I want to be able to use them on all trains?
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #220 on: March 27, 2020, 01:39:08 AM »
Is there a coupler conversion for the standard n couplers, ie a smaller kato type coupler that would fit the MDS Ge 4/4 ll
I have converted my bernina and glacier to closer couplings but not the locos as I want to be able to use them on all trains?

Hi Dave,

Yes

Some of my fleet of 10 or so GE4/4III have, 2 MDS 4/4II and 2 Kato 4/4II have one type each end partly because my scratchbuilt wagons have Arnold type couplings for speed of conversion. My 3D Ge4/4I and Ge6/6II has a standard N coupler as it is on a bashed  Tomytec motorised chassis
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #221 on: March 29, 2020, 09:48:32 AM »
Is there a coupler conversion for the standard n couplers, ie a smaller kato type coupler that would fit the MDS Ge 4/4 ll
I have converted my bernina and glacier to closer couplings but not the locos as I want to be able to use them on all trains?

Hi Dave,

Yes

Some of my fleet of 10 or so GE4/4III have, 2 MDS 4/4II and 2 Kato 4/4II have one type each end partly because my scratchbuilt wagons have Arnold type couplings for speed of conversion. My 3D Ge4/4I and Ge6/6II has a standard N coupler as it is on a bashed  Tomytec motorised chassis
,
Is there a coupler conversion for the standard n couplers, ie a smaller kato type coupler that would fit the MDS Ge 4/4 ll
I have converted my bernina and glacier to closer couplings but not the locos as I want to be able to use them on all trains?

Hi Dave,

Yes

Some of my fleet of 10 or so GE4/4III have, 2 MDS 4/4II and 2 Kato 4/4II have one type each end partly because my scratchbuilt wagons have Arnold type couplings for speed of conversion. My 3D Ge4/4I and Ge6/6II has a standard N coupler as it is on a bashed  Tomytec motorised chassis
Is there a coupler conversion for the standard n couplers, ie a smaller kato type coupler that would fit the MDS Ge 4/4 ll
I have converted my bernina and glacier to closer couplings but not the locos as I want to be able to use them on all trains?

Hi Dave,

Yes

Some of my fleet of 10 or so GE4/4III have, 2 MDS 4/4II and 2 Kato 4/4II have one type each end partly because my scratchbuilt wagons have Arnold type couplings for speed of conversion. My 3D Ge4/4I and Ge6/6II has a standard N coupler as it is on a bashed  Tomytec motorised chassis
How has the 3d Ge4/4 1 turned out was looking myself
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #222 on: March 29, 2020, 09:51:05 AM »
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Well different tracks have arrived, the finescale code 40 is beautiful,  but time, cost and the fact MDS stock sits on the rail chairs, same with the atlas code 55, so rules those out. Fleischmann profi looks ok but the turnouts are a bit clunky. Waiting for Peco code 55 to try if not it will have to be Kato unitrack
Well the peco code 55 with unifrog points looks and works well, so that's the way for me, hoorah
I look forward to seeing how your layout progresses, now that you have made your track choice....
Gizzy,  how a couple of months in a decision can change, was given some Kato unitrak so after playing and using some foam board to loose some sleeper height it's ok.
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #223 on: March 29, 2020, 01:20:48 PM »
Shame your original track choice didn't work out, as I'm sure in your mind's eye it looked the part.

Sometimes though in railway modelling, we have to make a compromised as to what looks right, and what actually works!

I could not fit a station on my layout for a loco hauling 12 coached, but a GE 4/4 hauling a 6 coach GEX consist looks fine and rekindled memories of my visit to the RhB in 2010....
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