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Author Topic: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale  (Read 5658 times)

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #150 on: September 21, 2018, 09:15:51 AM »
Can anyone recommend a suitable bogie for RhB freight use (ideally arnoldo couplers)?

I already have some kato bogies, but ideally looking for something that is a screw fitting. Initial need is for a  Fac.

THanks.
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #151 on: September 21, 2018, 10:58:54 AM »
Can anyone recommend a suitable bogie for RhB freight use (ideally arnoldo couplers)?

I already have some kato bogies, but ideally looking for something that is a screw fitting. Initial need is for a  Fac.

THanks.

Is it for the shapeways Fac ? How big a hole does it have to have ? Would an American style bogie be ok ?

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #152 on: September 21, 2018, 11:40:27 AM »
Can anyone recommend a suitable bogie for RhB freight use (ideally arnoldo couplers)?

I already have some kato bogies, but ideally looking for something that is a screw fitting. Initial need is for a  Fac.

THanks.

Is it for the shapeways Fac ? How big a hole does it have to have ? Would an American style bogie be ok ?


yes, not sure (can find screws to fit), and yes

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #153 on: September 21, 2018, 12:00:17 PM »
yes, not sure (can find screws to fit), and yes




What's the diameter of the two round body bolster where the bogies get attached to ?

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #154 on: September 21, 2018, 05:13:38 PM »

What's the diameter of the two round body bolster where the bogies get attached to ?


4mm.

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #155 on: September 26, 2018, 01:13:20 AM »
I was working on my version tonight, in prep for exhibiting in Birmingham this Saturday. The simplest way is American bogies with screws. The screw will self tap into the hole (should survive a while without breaking - I've fitted and refitted a few times and the lug hasn't worn through

If you can find reply number 55 in this  thread which shows the bogies I used.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2018, 01:20:49 AM by Gordon »
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #156 on: October 04, 2018, 10:47:51 AM »
Just started modelling the RhB with Kato products and I was wondering about freight wagons.

Some great ideas here....
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #157 on: October 24, 2018, 05:49:52 PM »
just received the following RhB items from www.rhbmodellbahn.com, and though i'd give folks an idea of what they look like:
- XK 9008 Kranwagen
- 2 x Sp-w flachwagen

postage to the UK was CHF 19.



The flat wagon comprises a chassis in grey and a "planked" overlay in brown. Add (kato?) bogies, fixing screws,  and stanchions (including 2 spares) and that's it. THe stanchions are very delicate.

length is 101.25 mm (=15.19m assuming 1:150) with bogies centres of 72.75mm (10.912m) - can anyone comment how this compares to the real thing ?

The 3D print appears fairly coarse, "graining" appears worse than the best from Shapeways in my view, but it may be exacerbated due to the colour of the plastic.




The crane has many more parts, in dark grey and yellow, plus wheelsets, couplings, a small transfer sheet, and instructions in German. The 3D print graining is noticable on the grey, but less so on the yellow. The jib is in two parts and the web site says that the crane assembly can be screw fixed to the chassis if desired (but screw not provided!) to allow it to be positioned as needed (i.e. parked or in use).

length is 58.12 mm  - from finke and schweer Vol 4 I think it should be more around 55mm (excl. buffers) , but not too bad ? THe axle centre dimension also appears to be a bit off.



Summary  - if assembled as received, these are going to be a bit too toylike for my taste, so I intend to remove some of the more obvious 3D print artifacts with wet and dry paper, and paint before assembly. Given the price - not too bad.

I'll post again once assemble moves on.

I also ordered a "schaltpost" from the catenary range, some plastic threads are present that will need to be cleaned up - again in my view quality is not too bad given the price.



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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #158 on: October 24, 2018, 07:11:18 PM »

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #159 on: October 25, 2018, 02:25:53 PM »
Many thanks for this fitzgreyve!

I've ordered a Stuerwagon, and a couple of ballast trucks.

Seems to be good value for money, given that they come from Switzerland....
« Last Edit: November 05, 2018, 03:25:10 PM by Gizzy »
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #160 on: October 29, 2018, 12:58:52 AM »
Latest freight train consist - as running at a Sussex show 3 weeks ago:




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« Last Edit: October 29, 2018, 01:00:10 AM by Gordon »
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #161 on: November 05, 2018, 09:32:51 AM »
Rhb FAC:

- Shapeways (TT Trams) body
- Kato bogies (these fitted, but need to change as the air-suspension (?) is "somewhat anacronistic")
- eckon ladders
- own transfers (from photos of the real thing)



Photo has flagged that I need to touch up some glue marks - nothing hides form the camera!

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #162 on: November 05, 2018, 03:27:57 PM »
Many thanks for this fitzgreyve!

I've ordered a Stuerwagon, and a couple of ballast trucks.

Seems to be good value for money, given that they come from Switzerland....
I received these over the weekend.

As mentioned, they will need a bit of work to bring the bodies upto an acceptable standard, but for the money, they ain't bad....
Gizzy

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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #163 on: November 06, 2018, 11:37:32 AM »
RHBModellBahn.com sp-w (with kato ge 4/4 ii):



Observations:
- body length and bogie centres are slightly short against RhB published figures (assuming this is meant ot be 1:150)
- some initial work on body sides with wet and dry paper.
- assembled stanchions to body then sprayed humbrol matt grey (slots for stanchions are not a good fit)
- plank overlay needs slots opening out to fit around stanchions, then may not centre on body. I've not yet glued it  down due to.....
- screws supplied with (kato) bogies (no.4 x 6mm approx) are too long, will leave bogies very loose or penetrate top of planking. I've ordered some no.4 x 4.5mm flat ended self tap.
- if run without load, may need some additional weight.

Summary - 3-d print graining on body is worse than shapeways fine detail, but not that noticable in this case. A cheap way of getting some sp-w, given that only current alternative is pirata ?

Now I can stop running DB rungenwaggon behind RHB engines!

edit -  I think I'll get some "headboards" 3d prijnted to create one of the other sp-w variants.

edit 2 - I can confirm that No.4 x 4.5mm flat ended self tap screws are a good fit for bogie attachment.
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Re: Modelling Swiss narrow gauge in 1:150th scale
« Reply #164 on: November 25, 2018, 08:26:36 AM »
I thought I would stick my oar in on this thread with a couple of photos of my catenary built using Sommerfeldt N gauge masts and N-Track etched parts from AB Modell. I have now built about 25 masts now and hopefully I will post some more photos in due course.




 

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