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Author Topic: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case  (Read 31670 times)

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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #525 on: June 17, 2018, 03:19:59 PM »
I have said it before but will say it again, some excellent modelling, (and photographs). Just a little bit of 'nit-picking' - the bus stop sign looks a bit 'chunky'. Sorry.
Yes, I was looking at that. As ever it looks worse in the photo than to the naked eye. Itís actually a cocktail stick. Maybe a rethink?
Thanks for the nice comments by the way.
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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #526 on: June 17, 2018, 03:57:08 PM »
Another excellent set of photos., Martin. The change of fence, plus the added detailing, really add further to the character. In N Scale, if you make something like a bus stop scale size it'll be very flimsy unless you use one of the white metal kit ones. (I, probably, have a spare one but until I have a full tidy up finding it will be difficult. I only need one for outside the Cant Cove station building.) Maybe you can sand down the cocktail stick to make it thinner?

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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #527 on: June 17, 2018, 05:27:16 PM »
A nice set of photos again. :thumbsup:
The brown fence is a great improvement. I have some piano wire that I was thinking of using for road signs. It's about scale diameter and flexible so if it's knocked no damage is done. For bus stops a thin piece of card or paper soaked in super glue to make it rigid and for road signs clear acetate laser printed. No need to try and cut the triangles out. That's a long time in the future for me but maybe worth a try for you.
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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #528 on: June 17, 2018, 08:58:20 PM »
Thank you for these fabulous photographs.

The fence looks better in brown.

Which makes me think (a very dangerous situation!); would the railway fence behind the 'Pannier' be better in brown as well?  The railway companies here in Blighty were required to fence their lines (more or less - there were certain exceptions) but I think it would be unlikely that white paint would be used other than at level crossings and suchlike (as you have done at the level crossing and pedestrian gates).

Just a thought...

Wonderful modelling, thank you.

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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #529 on: June 18, 2018, 05:53:31 AM »
I agree, the railway fence behind the 'Pannier' would look better in brown, as well.

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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #530 on: June 18, 2018, 07:06:47 AM »
Excellent Martin. Fence much better in brown. Maybe try florists wire for the bus stop?

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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #531 on: June 18, 2018, 12:56:09 PM »
Many, many thanks to you all for the input and suggestions.
First off, I think the bus stop sign looks wrong and will be amended. Iím thinking of simply adding the sign itself to the shelter. It looks like a massive teleggraph pole with a sign stuck on it and it does rather dominate.

As for the fence. I look at it slightly differently. Whilst I do like things to be reasonably historically accurate, Iím not beholden to that approach.
I want my layouts (and particularly this one) to be pleasing to the eye.
So after very careful thought and consideration, .Iím keeping the white fence as it, to me, is visually pleasing (even if it does look a bit like the rails on a racecourse). I wasnít happy about the small poece of white fence by the grounded van body as it just looked visually wrong.
Maybe, however, I need to weather the whiteness down a bit though.
Keep the suggestions coming though.
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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #532 on: June 18, 2018, 01:41:15 PM »
As for the fence. I look at it slightly differently. Whilst I do like things to be reasonably historically accurate, Iím not beholden to that approach.
I want my layouts (and particularly this one) to be pleasing to the eye.

I could not agree more, Martin.

Twenty years ago I would not have been one for this approach but now I am.  I want a little world to make me happy and, as such, it will probably look a bit like a poor pastiche of an illustration from a Ladybird book.  But strict realism is not for me nowadays.

For me, it is the graffiti test.  I loathe graffiti in real life and would not have it on a layout*.  But many others do and consider it part of their realistic portrayal of a railway in miniature.  I am delighted to exchange that realism for visual attraction.

* Although, if I choose to develop Sandrock, my US 'N' scale layout, there might well be a shed or something similar with 'I like Ike' and 'Support the March of Dimes' painted on it.  But it will be the owner who will have painted his own shed!

Finally, all three of your layouts that I have seen on the Forum score very highly on the 'pleasing to the eye' test as far as I'm concerned and are greatly influencing my thinking.  Thank you.


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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #533 on: June 18, 2018, 02:01:26 PM »
Here, here!  :beers:
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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #534 on: June 18, 2018, 04:12:49 PM »
Agreed! Nothing like doing your own thing. :thumbsup:
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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #535 on: June 18, 2018, 10:13:43 PM »
If the fence is not painted it would tend to become dark grey as almost all wood, left untreated, tends to end up.
Some brownish dark grey with greenish spots...
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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #536 on: June 18, 2018, 10:14:59 PM »
... and a bit of fungi growing from the rotten uprights ...
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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #537 on: June 19, 2018, 07:47:33 AM »
Railway trackside fencing was, especially, last century, maintained in very good condition (it was a legislative requirement that fencing was maintained in a secure condition). Other fencing was, often, in the condition described.

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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #538 on: June 19, 2018, 12:12:53 PM »
Moving onwards and upwards. Well, Eastwards in this case.
Iíve been tidying up the backscene this morning to try to camouflage some of the seams and joins. Itís a little harder with my own photographed scene rather than proprietory ones I think but I have made an improvement. I very much like Kevin /Mickís ideas of a plastic edging so will purchase some of that maybe tomorrow or Thursday.
And Iím moving on to bringing the creamery to life this afternoon with little people, assorted clutter (just waiting for some painted milk churns to dry) and appropriate vehicles. Unless, that is, I get distracted by the football and cricket which is highly likely.

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Re: Tregonning - Layout in a (Largish) case
« Reply #539 on: June 20, 2018, 08:30:11 PM »
A few pictures of work in and around the creamery.







A fair bit of tidying to do yet plus I need to do something in the little road up to the factory gates. It all looks too bare. I have a couple of ideas so weíll wait and see.

I now have a deadline as the case will be off to Hayle show at the end of August.
If it looks right then it most probably is right.


 

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