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Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue)
« on: December 08, 2017, 10:27:32 PM »
Well, it's time to build a new & larger layout in the shed, something I've been wanting to do for some time & now finally getting round to making a start!

 I've been clearing out some of the junk in there & with the help of my dad, there is now electric & power points in place. We still have the lighting to fit, at the moment we are doing the insulation & putting up plasterboards. Once that is done some shelving is needed to store tools & various gardening things, it won't be a train only shed but there is room for a layout. Once that is finished, hopefully soon, baseboard construction can begin...

I have space for a 10 foot long by 3 foot wide baseboard  :claphappy:
I plan to base it somewhere in South Wales, BR Blue era, not sure if it will be a made up or real location as yet. Depending on space I would like a continuous run track design, either a 2 or 4 track mainline, possibly a few sidings & fiddle yard hidden behind the backscene.

To be continued.........
« Last Edit: December 18, 2017, 07:56:17 PM by mk1gtstu »
Cridmore Yard (4x2 1980's layout) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10382.msg107202#msg107202

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Re: My new (as yet un-named) layout
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2017, 02:43:57 AM »
Sounds great! Looking forward to developments  :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: My new (as yet un-named) layout
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2017, 08:44:40 AM »
A 4 track end curve might present width and access issues so might I suggest a dog bone layout similar to this.....


By doubling up the ovals you'd end up with a 4 line station area with plenty of siding space at the front and fiddle yard behind. I'd suggest curving the viewable track slightly rather than straight lines.

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Re: My new (as yet un-named) layout
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2017, 09:29:26 AM »
But where's the double track gone  Mick?
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Re: My new (as yet un-named) layout
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2017, 10:41:36 AM »
A 4 track end curve might present width and access issues so might I suggest a dog bone layout similar to this.....


By doubling up the ovals you'd end up with a 4 line station area with plenty of siding space at the front and fiddle yard behind. I'd suggest curving the viewable track slightly rather than straight lines.


Cheers Mick  :thumbsup:

Yeah, think a 4 track mainline may be pushing it a bit, the maximum baseboard width can only be 3 foot wide so 2 mainlines should be ok, I have 2 main lines on the Cridmore yard layout & that's 4x2. I have a few plans/ideas in my mind, need to decide which ones will be best. I'm not too bothered about tight curves either end as I can hide them with scenery, so long as the trains go round them with no issues that is...

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Cridmore Yard (4x2 1980's layout) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10382.msg107202#msg107202

My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

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Re: My new (as yet un-named) layout
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2017, 09:47:51 PM »
Some progress made in the shed today in freezing cold temperatures. Last of the insulation done, wiring for lights in place & plasterboards on the ceiling done, the walls were done a few years ago. Next job is to fit the lights & do some sealing around the plasterboards. The layout baseboard when I start building it will be along the back wall.
Photo below, excuse the mess, work in progress  ;)

cheers, Stu


Cridmore Yard (4x2 1980's layout) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10382.msg107202#msg107202

My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0

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Re: My new (as yet un-named) layout
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2017, 10:42:54 PM »
Hi Stu,

Sounds good and looking forward to your build.

Cheers weave  :beers:

PS 'excuse the mess'. What mess you amateur. Don't worry though, it'll get worse  ;) :D

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Re: My new (as yet un-named) layout
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2017, 12:07:12 AM »
A bit more progress in the shed, all the power points & LED light units now fitted & working. :)



The next job when time & weather allows is to make some shelving for storage of general stuff & have a sort out, at the moment every time I want to work in there I have to move stuff outside which is becoming a pain  :(

cheers, Stu
Cridmore Yard (4x2 1980's layout) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10382.msg107202#msg107202

My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0

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Re: Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue)
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2017, 08:13:49 PM »
Some decisions have been made! The new layout is going to be based on a real location in South Wales, BR Blue era, but with some compromises & rule 1 included.

This is the area I'm going to try & model, having visited here many times in the 1980's as a child. I can remember class 37's on MGR trains to Aberthaw power station thundering over this viaduct, at the time it was a freight only line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porthkerry_Viaduct

Compromises are; the viaduct on the layout will be a little bit shorter than the prototype due to space restrictions. Also there are large wooded areas either side of the viaduct which obscure most of the railway line either side. I will have less wooded areas on my layout so trains can be seen easily (plus it will mean less trees to buy or make!)
I'm going to run both passenger & freight trains rather than just MGR'S, so it will be HST'S, DMU'S, coal, oil, steel, parcels & other freight.

Track wise it will be a double mainline continuous, & large fiddle yard to the rear of the layout to hold trains. I'm going code 55 track & elecrofrog points which will be a first for me so be prepared for questions on how to wire them up  :confused1: The baseboard space I have measures 3ft wide & just under 10ft long so hopefully I will be able to run decent length trains for a change  :D


Cheers, Stu
« Last Edit: December 18, 2017, 08:39:37 PM by mk1gtstu »
Cridmore Yard (4x2 1980's layout) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10382.msg107202#msg107202

My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0

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Re: Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue)
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2017, 08:17:06 PM »
Looking forward to this taking shape Stu
If it looks right then it most probably is right.


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Re: Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue)
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2017, 08:30:23 PM »
I'm sure we're in for a treat, Stu.
Am I right in thinking you are running DCC?

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Re: Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue)
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2017, 08:37:29 PM »
Cheers Mick, I'm looking forward to the build. I'm going DC mainly due to the large number of loco's I have, I'll need a lottery win to convert them all! I may put extra dropper wires in jus in case I do decide to go DCC in the future though... :hmmm:

Cheers, Stu
Cridmore Yard (4x2 1980's layout) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10382.msg107202#msg107202

My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

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Re: Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue)
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2017, 10:34:06 PM »
Baseboard construction has begun! Due to the layout's home being in a wooden shed, the baseboard has been split into 2 modules bolted together with some coach bolts so worse case it can be dismantled & removed hopefully without destroying it should the need arise rather than permanently fixed in one piece. The outer framework has been screwed into the shed walls to provide extra stability but screws will be accessible from underneath the baseboards...










Cheers, Stu
« Last Edit: December 19, 2017, 10:35:17 PM by mk1gtstu »
Cridmore Yard (4x2 1980's layout) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10382.msg107202#msg107202

My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0

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Re: Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue)
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2017, 11:42:21 PM »
All coming together nicely, Stu. As Mick says, I think we're in for a treat.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue)
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2017, 03:18:10 PM »
Some more baseboard progress made, both halves now have plywood bases, still some upright pieces to put in. Split levels for the viaduct & scenery, it's all really strong & can take my weight. Also being split levels it should be less prone to warping.
The fiddle yard will be at the rear of the layout. There is also a small shelf in the right hand side baseboard that will house the controller & any switches needed. I will need to make some plywood lids as well to cover & protect the layout when not in use from damage, dust & insects. Some photos....
 













That's all for now,

Cheers, Stu
Cridmore Yard (4x2 1980's layout) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10382.msg107202#msg107202

My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0

 

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