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Author Topic: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)  (Read 11090 times)

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #75 on: November 06, 2018, 08:12:38 PM »
Good to see you back on here, keep the updates coming

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2018, 09:08:10 PM »
Yes, very good to see you posting again John. Really happy for you getting the transplant, but mind you don't over do it in the garden. :beers:
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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #77 on: November 07, 2018, 07:44:14 AM »
That looks like a nice lift-out section.  :)
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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #78 on: November 20, 2018, 04:24:16 PM »
A bit more progress over the weekend and a 4 day weekend coming up here for Thanksgiving.

Connected the lifting section to the existing tracks



The curves are tighter than I would like (12" on the inner curve). I may need to rebuild the lifting section to accommodate a larger curve radius.

A view of the first part of the storage yards with my push along test train



A view down the storage area



I'm reusing wooden sleepered track from my old layout in this section

And finally the gap between the storage section and the existing layout



Here I'll be adding a temporary section so that my grandchildren can see trains running around

You can see that at the south end of Wigan NW there are 6 running lines, The 2 rightmost lines are the old L&Y to Manchester, the 4 on the left are down slow, down fast, up fast, and up slow. For now the fast lines will be connected to the storage yard. After the holidays the 4 lines from Wigan NW will actually swing away to the left and the Manchester lines will run to the storage yards. I have yet to plan out what happens to the main lines and the Southport/Kirkby line as they run into the last bit of unused space in the shed.

At the moment nothing is wired up so once the track is done all the droppers will need to be connected to my DCC bus.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #79 on: November 20, 2018, 04:33:58 PM »
Hi John. In the 3rd pic it looks like there are a couple of tracks in the fiddle yard against the LH side of the table :goggleeyes:
That's going to be very interesting, to say the least! ;)

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #80 on: November 20, 2018, 05:56:54 PM »
Hi John. In the 3rd pic it looks like there are a couple of tracks in the fiddle yard against the LH side of the table :goggleeyes:
That's going to be very interesting, to say the least! ;)

That's cos the table isn't finished yet, it will be wider.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #81 on: November 26, 2018, 07:43:56 PM »
I made good use of the 4 day weekend here to get a lot done on the layout.

I finished all the track laying needed to get a double track continuous run ready for the Grandchildren at Christmas.

I have temporarily connected the up and down fast to the storage yard



I also finished the through lines in the storage yard.



After a little bit of testing by pushing wagons around I have started to wire it all up to my Z21.

All the track sections have droppers so this fairly easy.

I redid the wiring on the lifting section as it wasn't long enough to allow the lifting section to work!!



I then started working my way back down the layout.



The test train is a Farish 66 plus 3 TEAs and a Cargowaggon.

I'm using Wago 3 way connectors for the dropper feeds, also I not worryng about aesthetics yet, it just has to be working by Christmas.

Once the Pendo below can run around the layout I'll be happy.



And finally, as I haven't used a first class Pendo carriage yet, here are the lights.



I've got light bars for my other carriages but they can wait.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #82 on: November 26, 2018, 09:20:53 PM »
Has your camera/phone got a video function, John? (Nudge nudge, wink wink)

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #83 on: November 26, 2018, 09:44:14 PM »
Yes, but as nothing is moving yet, apart from the test train, I think a video might be a bit boring.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #84 on: December 03, 2018, 03:10:24 AM »
So this weekend things have really started to come together.

Warning, no pictures or videos as visually not much has changed.

First I got all of the twin track continuous run wired up.

As a result of the wiring I replaced one complete length of track that I had laid and wired last year as one wire fell off and there were melted sleepers and solder blobs everywhere. This old track will get used in my storage yard. I also pulled and rewired a couple of other lengths that had dry joints and so on.

Next I ran a test train to find any dead spots and imperfections in the track.

I have a set of 4 points that were not wired to my Z21, so the frog switching wasn't working, I connected up an accessory bus around the layout and got the points plus the frog polarity wiring sorted. I had the forsesight to wire my DCC track bus with 4 wires rather than 2 so that setting up an accessory bus would not be difficult.

Once that was sorted it was time for Alsthom Pendolino. Ran it at low speed and resolved all the issues when it suddenly came to a dead stop, typically track pins standing too proud or point motor actuator wires too high, occasionally track wiring got in the way as well.

Once that was done it was time for speed trials!!!

I started a 40mph and worked my way up from there. Straight away I found a number of track joins where one side of the track had ridden high of the joiner, these all got fixed.

Eventually I got to what my Z21 alleges is a scale 160mph and the fourth coach in the Pendo would be physically lifted from the track when the train went over my superelevated curves, it would then derail spectacularly when it dropped back on to the track. BTW this wasn't a speed issue, it would happen at low speed as well.

But on the plus side the Pendo was quite happy belting at full speed over my lifting section and then negotiating the 12" radius curve that follows.

The result of this is that the superelevation is gone (temporarily) and the Lenz BM2 that I got for 60% off list in a fire sale may well not be needed (I thought I would have to automatically slow trains down as they passed over the lifting section).

The Pendo now runs like a dream, so now I need to program it's address and sort out all the functions on my Z21 app.

Now that my Christmas obligations are done (at least as far as the layout goes), I can now start to get more loco's running and make a start on the storage yards so that I can begin to get the rest of my stock out of boxes.

And next week, fingers crossed, I'll post a video, and some more pictures.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #85 on: December 03, 2018, 10:48:08 AM »
It's one of the great wonders of our hobby that someone in the U.S. of A. is modelling something just 15 miles or so down the road from me :D

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #86 on: December 03, 2018, 02:34:28 PM »
That's because I spent the first 40 years of my life living about 15 miles down the road from you!

I'm a keaw yed.

If you live further south than the Mersey don'y worry about it. :):):)

And the mainline action in my current neck of the woods is single track, no signals!, max speed around 60mph, and mile long trains with at least 3 loco's.

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #87 on: December 03, 2018, 02:36:18 PM »
Sounds awesome! Better than my mainline action of homogenous 4-car EMUs plodding up and down all day long, even if it is 4-track and has signals ;)

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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #88 on: December 03, 2018, 02:41:10 PM »
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Re: Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)
« Reply #89 on: December 03, 2018, 02:51:28 PM »
Without turning this into a 'my trains are worse than yours thread' although maybe we could start one :):)

When you are in town (Fort Collins) and the crossing barriers go down, you get a lot of good spotting action, but you aren't going nowhere for at least 10 minutes. The City of Fort Collins does not have a single bridge or tunnel to get you from the West Side of town to the East side, not a big deal unless you've had a heart attack and have to wait for the train to pass before you can get to the hospital(s).

I also had the pleasure of waiting 30 minutes at a branch line crossing waiting for a stationary freight to get going again (there were just 4 wagons to go). Eventually I gave up, did a 3 mile diversion, did my errands and had to do the same diversion on the way back as the train was still there!

There's also a spot in Fort Collins where a branch splits in two and if you time it just right you can get stuck between two level crossings 25 yards apart.

To paraphrase. 'the US is a foreign country, they do things differently there'

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