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Author Topic: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?  (Read 12567 times)

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Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« on: September 18, 2017, 11:53:24 PM »
Yesterday, I took a break from Arduino (though I have started work on psychobot mk 2), and decided to dabble with my ancient layout. The damage at Castle Eden is quite devastating and I am almost at a loss as to where to begin fixing it.

The first thing I found was a substantial voltage drop on the track leading into Castle Eden. This was traced to poor blade contact on a point further along the line. A bit of tweaking fixed that, and I was able to give the Class 55 I bought at the Wigan show in 2014 a bit of a run:



Unfortunately, the bidirectional lighting is playing up - only red, with no white in the forward direction. This has me completely baffled, as this is only the third time it's been out of the box!

Anyway, I  dragged a few old locos out to see if they still ran, including this Poole standard tank:



To my delight, it did, but is minus a front buffer. The track it is standing on also has no power,  once again due to the point to the timber yard in the background not making good contact. Tweaking it resulted in it coming apart!

Anyway, I had a pleasant enough afternoon, but I'm not sure if the layout is worth restoring as the list of items is formidable. A smaller layout with Code 55 track is appealing,  but at one time I  put a lot of effort into this one, and a part of me wants to save it.

We'll see....
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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2017, 01:00:21 AM »
From what I can see it certainly looks worth saving.
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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2017, 01:46:14 AM »
I do apologise for the stupid question, but is there an overview of the layout somewhere? I don't recall ever seeing more than the occasional snapshot, and of course the Gronk doing wheelies along a platform edge.
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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2017, 02:07:56 AM »
No, Ian, there has never been an actual thread as such. I did post a 9 minute video of it taken around 1994 when it was in good nick, but that seems to have vanished into the ether. I'll try and relocate it and post a link.  :beers:

The layout appeared in a series of Railway Modeller articles, but the last one was 20 years ago, so I  think we can count those as unobtainable!!

Here is some artwork from one of the articles.




« Last Edit: September 19, 2017, 02:20:56 AM by Bealman »
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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2017, 02:47:12 AM »
George

I need to come and see this.

Missing buffer. I have a very old Lima 3F that had a missing buffer. Was able to fashion a replacement out of a carpet tack. You would not be able to pick that there had been a substitution unless it was pointed out.

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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2017, 04:52:33 AM »
You know you're welcome, mate, but I'd like it to be in a bit better state than it currently is!!!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2017, 06:17:38 AM »
Hi George

From the photos and what I remember from the 9 minute video when you last posted a link, what made the Beal & Castle Eden was the scenery, the buildings and the sense of the railway running through the countryside.

Would replacing the track be possible as a first step? You could follow that up with a refresh of the scenery.

That way code 55 track and new points can be put in place and you keep what you want from the old layout. A huge job to be sure, but surely worth considering versus starting from scratch. You could even upgrade to a DCC at the same time!!!

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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2017, 06:27:46 AM »
If you're having trouble with power at point blades, it might be worth thinking about a frog juicer, although they only work with DCC.  From the age of your layout, I guess it's probably DC, so some extra track feeds beyond the point and IRJs at the frogs would be a good bet if the the points are of the electrofrog type. If they are of the insulfrog type, you just need the track feeds.  Anyway, it definitely looks worth rescuing!
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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2017, 06:59:28 AM »
Looks to be a great layout George. Would like to see more pictures.

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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2017, 07:05:09 AM »
Looks worth it to me!

The 55 is beautiful, isn't it?

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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2017, 07:20:36 AM »
Laurence: yep, it's DC, mate. Live frogs. Putting an extra feed there would do the trick, but it would need to be able to be switched in and out. Quite a simple job but complicated by the state of the wiring beneath the board.

Castle Eden currently looks like a bomb hit it, only the station building is intact. Some electrical problems exist here too. Only one starter signal out of 4 currently operating.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2017, 12:56:59 AM by Bealman »
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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2017, 07:31:06 AM »
Mike: thanks for all the kind words, but ripping all the track up is out of the question. Due to the way the layout was constructed, it's just totally impossible.

I have two options.... get what I've got looking respectable and in working order, then finishing the final section with Code 55, or trash it completely and begin again with DCC.

Thanks for the thoughts, though!  :beers:

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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2017, 07:33:21 AM »
Scott: yep, the new (well, reasonably new) Class 55 is a lovely model, but I'm disappointed by the failure of the lighting!
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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2017, 07:40:54 AM »
Looks worth spending some time on to me.
Can we see a bit more please?
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Re: Beal & Castle Eden. ... restoration?
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2017, 08:05:50 AM »
Thanks! I plan to post a few more new pics and hopefully vids.... but I'll be showing warts and all!  :beers:
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