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Halsnead Dale - updates
« on: July 15, 2020, 03:23:29 PM »
I have now started this thread about updates on my layout. Originally I added information and some initial images on my 'Introduction' thread - see: https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=41207.msg504759#msg504759 including some images as I was still finding my way around this forum.

For those who are not familiar with the background, I originally wanted to build a layout in my 10'x 6' garden shed but cut a long story short, although the track was laid some years ago, it never got any further, so up it came! About three years ago, with my eldest son laid track on a 6' x 15' baseboard I built with emphasis on a town station and diesel depot were he designed the layout, along with wiring up the isolating sections. Unfortunately, were the Garden Shed layout had tube and wire to control the points, he left these out sadly on this layout. This means the long rod to manually switch the points unfortunately.

I accept some would suggest take some of the track work up and put in tube and wire OR insert point motors before carrying on. Fair point but had I started that process, then there would a good chance, the layout would remain on the back burner and never get completed. Anyway, the layout remained untouched for three years until Covid 19 lockdown arrived! Being furloughed meant I had some spare time to catch up on some things including I thought, start on the layout. Yes, I have actually commenced. Yay!

Now for some time, I have been wondering what to call the layout and initially thought of 'Croftwood' being were I lived but just never 100% sure on that name. Anyway, I have finally settled on 'Halsnead Dale' with Buxton Station and Diesel Depot being the inspiration as such. The 'era' I am portraying is UK modern image around 1990's / 2000's were there was an explosion of 'liveries' to be seen!

As this is the first entry on this thread, I have inserted one image of the layout before I commenced work so you are able to see my starting point for future progress.  A little later, I will post a second entry on my progress so far since the lockdown commenced.  Thank you for getting this far.  :)



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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2020, 03:54:23 PM »
Looks good doug. Plenty of operational possibilities at buxton with freight, the dmu. I do remember being on a charter train top tailed

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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2020, 04:19:19 PM »
Progress - Part One.

Having laid the initial foundation with this thread, time for the first update that took place beginning of May.

Although the track on the board was completed, uncompleted platforms laid and hard ground areas put into place for the sheds and freight area, there was still the 'fiddle yard' board to be constructed and track laid. I had thought about how to go about this whether to have a sliding fiddle yard or a fixed one. I decided for the latter as easier to complete and for the size of the layout, I think it would be sufficient as long there was two tracks per mainline for trains to arrive and depart.

Unlike the baseboard, the 'fiddle yard' board was fully completed and painted before any track was laid. Without further explanations, the image below will show you the final configuration with four unconnected lines to store loco's and wagons. The remaining work to be carried out is the wiring connection to the main layout along with the physical connection also. The latter will take place at a later date when I have completed the scenery along with building trestle type legs to rest the boards on. Currently my main board is lying on top of two 'drawer' units in my small bedroom hence no connection to the fiddle yard.

Next progress update to follow shortly.


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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2020, 01:34:22 PM »
Progress - Part Two

After the Fiddle Yard / Board was completed, it was now onto the scenery / buildings etc. I am not sure of other members, but I really do not have a definite idea / plan what is going on the board, I sort of make it up as a I go along, obtaining materials / kits when I need them.

However, I have already decided that structures / buildings / colours will be consistent with each other rather for example put a GWR Signal Box with a LNER station building. Fortunately I had already had Gaugemaster Town Station kit, Ratio Platform Canopy kit, Metcalfe Bus / Rail Shed kit along with other bits and bobs too. Strangely I was going to sell the Metcalfe kit on Ebay, then suddenly realised it actually be useful. Over the next couple of weeks, built the above items, painted them and put them to one side. I then purchase a Peco Diesel Maintenance Shed and another Ratio platform canopy kit, they got completed too.

One think I found difficult to obtain was a Woodland Scenics 'Island Platform' kit, some were available but at silly prices. I only wanted the kit for the platform surfaces and edging but eventually manage to get an 'opened' packet one cheaply. This meant I now could complete the station in due course. In the meantime, I found some black/grey mounting board, so I have used that, cut to size for the hard surface areas of the Diesel Depot as well as the small freight area. This was laid and stuck down with PVA glue, thinking of being clever, black side up but in reality it made no difference as now realise need to obtain some 'concrete' colour paint to give it its correct appearance. Using the same mounting board, cut strips to create the side road which runs from one end of the layout to the other. Still deciding how to provide the surface for the road but currently looks like very fine wet/dry sandpaper seems to be the way to go?

One thing I had notice with the above, and I am sure others have the similar problem, building and painting such small items is not as easy as it use to be, you know eyes not as good and fingers not as nimble as they use to be. Mmmm an 'age' thing eh! Amongst the many items / kits I already had, some of them made there way to Ebay and now been sold. The money for them will partly offset future expenditure for sure!

My next update, will be in connection with the start of the scenery, ballasting and such like. Thank you reading and taking an interest.
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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2020, 09:33:59 PM »
Progress - Part Three

Now to bring things upto date as of a week ago. As indicated previously it was now time for the scenery etc but again I had no definite plan, as I was still wondering how to do both ends of a flat layout given it needs some height to give some depth too. First, originally I was going to have the back scene on the road side of the layout and purchase an "id back scenes" Distribution Depot backdrop as such but as time went by, I decided to have the back scene on the Station side instead and not the Distribution Depot back scene to be displayed. This is now for sale on Ebay and going for another back scene which consists of a back wall and arches as more applicable.

The other issue I had, I have never attempted to apply scenery to a layout before, clearly this was going to be trial and error on my part but in order to cut possible mistakes, I have watch a few video's on 'You Tube' for idea's and guidance. The important thing was to take my time with everything, one small step at a time. My first area to start was the Fiddle Yard end of the layout and add 'height' and 'depth' but clearly some sort of hill / embankment needed to be in place with a 'tunnel' for the tracks but also another 'tunnel' for a road into the depot sidings. Anyway, with some foam, plaster and two Ancorton tunnel entrance kits manage to 'fit' it in the limited space available. Afterwards applied base coat of paint, couple lots of scatter, a wall, and some bushes! Much to my amazement, it looked ok for a first time effort and only needed to blend it in with the layout.

In order to fit the backdrop in, a couple of the tracks had to be realigned. Now to 'ballast' some of the track, something I not done before. Having watch some video's on how to apply, it became clear to use a slide box device to apply the ballast. Purchase one and got 'Legacy' 2mm ballast at the same time. I decided to try two area's initially, 1) two lines into the station and 2) around the tunnel entrance. Ok cut a long story short, although it looked ok after ballast dried, I was not happy with the way it appeared. I concluded the slide box device was the issue and only way forward was the 'slow and patient' method of gently applying by tea spoon, then use the brush to clear excess ballast (I did use the brush on the first application too). The final result although not perfect, so much better in appearance. This approach will now remain for the remainder of the layout.

The final part of the process was blending in the join of the embankment with the board / track with I done over couple of days, by taking the approach of doing a little, step back, dry and then do another little section. Afterwards, added some walls, concrete trunking and more scatter near to the tunnel. Now this has been completed, I have taken a temporary step back before carrying on to make sure I am still happy with the initial result. At moment I am. Below is a couple of images to provide you with a better idea / impression of what I done so far. Constructive feed back / comments would be welcome.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to read the above.






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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2020, 09:42:50 PM »
That is a well weathered transrail loco. Super work on the tunnel portals

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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2020, 10:30:04 PM »
It's looking good. I tend to find ballast applicators or slide box thingies just put down too much so I go for the spoon & brush method too

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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2020, 07:11:50 AM »
Looking pretty good to me.
If it looks right then it most probably is right.


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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2020, 07:57:17 AM »
Hi 8A Rail,

Great stuff and looking forward to more.

Cheers, weave  :beers:

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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2020, 11:31:27 AM »
It's looking good. I tend to find ballast applicators or slide box thingies just put down too much so I go for the spoon & brush method too
Thank you, I am glad that I am not the only one who has issues with the ballast applicator. I thought it may of been a 'me' thing as such.

That is a well weathered transrail loco. Super work on the tunnel portals
Ah it is a loco that could be applicable to your layout as it was a regular visitor to the area. The loco is No 56099 'Fiddlers Ferry Power Station'. Thank you for your kind compliment too.

To Port Perran and Weave, thank you for your thoughts.  :)
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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2020, 11:40:45 AM »
Doug. Thank you . Here is the real 56099 in 1996 passing crewe     
                  I did like the 2 tone grey livery . Yes applicable to my layout. On the subject of ballasting, that's a neat job and yes fingers, spoon and brush for me

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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2020, 01:09:46 PM »
Doug. Thank you . Here is the real 56099 in 1996 passing crewe ....  snip ....  I did like the 2 tone grey livery . Yes applicable to my layout. On the subject of ballasting, that's a neat job and yes fingers, spoon and brush for me
I did manage to photograph 56099 on numerous occasions including MGR trains in and out of Fiddlers ferry, one image below, being the second loco behind 56018 taken in 1995 departing Liverpool Docks. Happy Days.

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Re: Halsnead Dale - updates
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2020, 01:45:13 PM »
Indeed doug. Happy days. Look forward to more on halsnead

 

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