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Author Topic: APT-E by Revolution  (Read 8825 times)

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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2017, 10:03:27 AM »
.... Particularly if Rapido work an engineering miracle and produce a working tilt mechanism in N!
Fleischmann have been making a couple of N gauge models with tilt for many years  (ICE-T set and the BR610 Pendolino unit), so it's perfectly feasible.
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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2017, 11:14:19 AM »
We know how to do a tilting mechanism, it is more a case of can we fit it in the articulated bogies (and make sure it is reliable/not too fiddly!).

For the Pendolino we deliberately didn't try to include tilt as the real thing doesn't tilt at low speed - it tilts when activated by lineside balisses typically at higher speeds - and we figured that the majority of people will have Pendolinos running through points and stations.

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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2017, 11:40:15 AM »
Tilting  APT - how much do the Pendo's tilt - what is the 1/148 equivalent?? is it measurable??
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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2017, 12:02:20 PM »
I'll ask Kit (Mr Tilt) Spackman next time I see him - IIRC the Pendolino tilts less than the APT-E could.

In less than 24 hours since making the expressions of interest form visible (some idiot (me) put the page up before TINGS but didn't add it to any menus or news item) we've had expressions of interest in about 10% of the total we need to convince Rapido that there is enough demand.

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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2017, 12:17:34 PM »
The APT-P (electric powered version rather than the APT-E Revolution are proposing) tilted by 6" at the roof level - 1mm in N Gauge.

On the APT the tilt was active - calculated as a function of speed and curve radius.

Personally I'm not fussed about a tilting model. 0.5 to 1mm cant on track looks much better!

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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2017, 12:21:56 PM »
I am one of the 10% who have expressed an interest so far. Although I am not to bothered by tilt, I might push the boat out a bit further if a sound version is available. Rather fancy some turbine noise to give the neighbour's cat a new interest in self-preservation. ;-)
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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2017, 12:24:35 PM »
I am one of the 10% who have expressed an interest so far. Although I am not to bothered by tilt, I might push the boat out a bit further if a sound version is available. Rather fancy some turbine noise to give the neighbour's cat a new interest in self-preservation. ;-)

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I'm assuming if it goes ahead then sound will be an option like with the Pendolino, etc.

Signed up the moment I saw the announcement.

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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2017, 12:32:31 PM »
Nice to see this being done, interest expressed.

Would it be viable to look at doing the ATP-POP at the same time?

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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2017, 12:50:32 PM »
I'll ask Kit (Mr Tilt) Spackman next time I see him - IIRC the Pendolino tilts less than the APT-E could.

In less than 24 hours since making the expressions of interest form visible (some idiot (me) put the page up before TINGS but didn't add it to any menus or news item) we've had expressions of interest in about 10% of the total we need to convince Rapido that there is enough demand.

Cheers, Mike

The quick initial take-up on this is a testimony to the quality of the products produced so far by RevolutioN and RevolutioN's growing reputation Mike. People have seen that it isn't just talk and the resulting models are some of the finest pieces of N Gauge rolling stock produced to date.

My only regret is I never ordered any of the TEA tankers!  :-[
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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2017, 01:00:54 PM »


The quick initial take-up on this is a testimony to the quality of the products produced so far by RevolutioN and RevolutioN's growing reputation Mike. People have seen that it isn't just talk and the resulting models are some of the finest pieces of N Gauge rolling stock produced to date.

My only regret is I never ordered any of the TEA tankers!  :-[

I'm wondering at what point do Revolution buy up Hornby for the LOLs (and the rights to various other models)? :)

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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2017, 01:02:48 PM »
Nice to see this being done, interest expressed.

Would it be viable to look at doing the ATP-POP at the same time?


There is a 3D design being printed in 00 which is also scale-able to N.

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/114295-apt-pop-train-kit-under-design-construction/
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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2017, 02:01:41 PM »
Hi folks

I would assume that we would be able to get access to the same sound files as the OO version used. We definitely like to offer factory fitted DCC sound when possible.

The POP train would be a completely new project I'm afraid (and one that I suspect would be better etched or 3D printed).

Cheers, Mike



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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2017, 02:57:36 PM »
Can't wait to get  my hands on one, I love the APT series of trains!

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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2017, 03:30:13 PM »
This is a "must have" for me and I've already signed up. Regarding tilt, it is FAR more pronounced on the APT than the Pendolino and I feel its absence would be noticeable.

That said, it is not a deal breaker for me but would be great to have.

I was fortunate enough to be able to spend a couple of years with the APT-E Support Group at York NRM, prior to the move to Shildon, which placed it a bit out of range for me. It truly is a fascinating train, with aeronautic-style bodyshells, some areas looking as though they have come from a Gerry Anderson series and other pieces so wonderfully over-engineered, they could have come off a Black Five!

Here's a selection of images that may pique your interest...

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Re: APT-E by Revolution
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2017, 05:54:49 PM »
https://flic.kr/s/aHsm4efuw9


I had a look at the photos - the technology inside is soooooo antiquated. I remember when I saw the space shuttle in the Smithsonian in Washington DC, how ancient it looked, but this scares me rigid. Punch card readers? Drivers cab like the 1960s series of Star Trek. OMG its scary!

But I do remember the tilt - it seemed to tilt for ever.

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