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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #345 on: December 02, 2017, 11:31:19 PM »
I've made a couple more signals. You'll have to look closely to spot one of them!



A Ratio kit provides the down home signal and a ground signal controls the exit from the refuge siding, where a Midland 4F waits for an A4 to pass by.

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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #346 on: December 02, 2017, 11:37:45 PM »
That's great! Does the ground signal work, Roger, or cosmetic?  :thumbsup:
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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #347 on: December 02, 2017, 11:39:47 PM »
Another nice pic, I have two 4f's which I plan on weathering eventually has well has renumbering. Have you thought of changing the couplings to another type. I plan on doing some shunting so I am planning on using D&G couplings or B&B couplings which are slightly easier to build, both look better than the standard rapido coupling and less intrusive.
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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #348 on: December 03, 2017, 08:46:23 AM »
Thank you, Roger, for another excellent* photograph.

The signals are splendid, particularly the little 'Tommy Dot'.

All best wishes.

John

* Sorry; I am running out of superlatives to describe your modelling and photography.
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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #349 on: December 03, 2017, 09:04:58 AM »
Truly inspiring work, thank you.  :goggleeyes: :o :goggleeyes: :greatpicturessign:
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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #350 on: December 03, 2017, 10:12:19 AM »
Mmmmm... more eye candy  :D

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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #351 on: December 03, 2017, 09:39:44 PM »
That's great! Does the ground signal work, Roger, or cosmetic?  :thumbsup:

I think we need a 'tongue in cheek' emoji for questions like that, George!! None of the signals are working - perhaps a project for the future. Making the non-working ground signals was fiddly enough, and they're very crude. A bit of 40thou square plastikard for the post. A 2.5mm length of 30thou rod with the top rounded off to suggest the lamp. A 2.5mm diameter disc of 10thou cut in the Silhouette machine. And an operating lever cut from 20thou. The one in the photo is actually 10thou, but I thought it's too fragile and switched to 20thou for this batch. I made more than I needed so that I could chose the best ones to put on the layout.



Another nice pic, I have two 4f's which I plan on weathering eventually has well has renumbering. Have you thought of changing the couplings to another type. I plan on doing some shunting so I am planning on using D&G couplings or B&B couplings which are slightly easier to build, both look better than the standard rapido coupling and less intrusive.

I haven't summoned up enough courage to weather a loco yet, Chris. So the 4F was bought from TMC and weathered by them. I've been happy with all the locos I've had from them.

I have thought about using different couplings on a few wagons so that some shunting could be done in the goods yard. All the options look a bit fiddly, though, so perhaps another job that's going to be put on hold for a while!


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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #352 on: December 06, 2017, 10:38:03 PM »
A bit more weathering done.



Like the cattle wagons this was a set of three factory weathered models. I reduced the rust colour on the chassis with some washes of roof dirt and weathered black and added some sleeper grime, frame and roof dirt to the tanks.

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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #353 on: December 10, 2017, 11:03:01 PM »
This afternoon's photo.



A train of vans and conflats waits for a passenger train to pass on the down line. Meanwhile a J39 with a short mixed goods train waits for the up passenger train to pass. So, question. Should there be another signal controlling the up main beside the B17 and where the exit from the goods loop joins the main line? Or would that junction be controlled by the starter signal at the end of the platform, just out of shot to the left.

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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #354 on: December 11, 2017, 07:04:20 AM »
Great picture, Roger.

Can't answer your signal question but you can be sure someone who can will be along shortly.

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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #355 on: December 11, 2017, 08:26:57 AM »
As ever , truly inspiring modelling.
If it looks right then it most probably is right.


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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #356 on: December 11, 2017, 09:07:12 AM »
Another cracking, ultra realistic photo Roger. Superb stuff. :thumbsup:

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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #357 on: December 11, 2017, 09:08:45 AM »
A brilliant picture, Roger.  Thank you for posting it.

With regard to your signal question:-

I presume that you mean a stop signal on the Up Main, sort of beside the crossover to the Up Goods Loop.

The idea being to stop a train on the Up Main to allow a movement out from the Up Loop.  This might not appear likely, but unusual movements can occur and the interlocking can be arranged for these.

In traditional GB semaphore practice, the overlap beyond a stop signal was 440 yards unless there was a drastic speed restriction such as approaching a buffer stop.  The overlap was, put simply, to allow the driver to get his train under control before he hit something, in the event of bad rail or a miscalculation by the driver (very easy in fog or falling snow).  Otherwise, the margin of safety is the thickness of the signal post.

The Up Goods Loop may well have a signal near the crossover because that is protected by a headshunt (or in other instances, a trap point) and will have a speed restriction in force.

Therefore, in my opinion, the signal controlling the main line at the crossover would be the Up Platform Starting Signal, as you say.  Incidentally, it is possible that, beyond the crossover to the Up Goods Loop, there might have been an Up Advanced Starting Signal!

I hope these ramblings are of some help and that a S&T Inspector comes along in a minute!

With all best wishes.

John
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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #358 on: December 11, 2017, 09:04:34 PM »
Therefore, in my opinion, the signal controlling the main line at the crossover would be the Up Platform Starting Signal, as you say.

Thanks John, that's helpful. My feeling is to use as few signals as possible, especially as they don't work! I have put one of the ground signals to control exit from the goods yard.

I left the lights and camera tripod in place overnight and this morning I took another picture which shows what would have happened a few seconds after yesterday's shot.


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Re: Wrenton
« Reply #359 on: December 12, 2017, 09:39:08 AM »
Roger, these are wonderful photographs of an exceptional layout. If my own layout ends up being half as good as this, I'll be a happy man!

 

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