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Author Topic: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!  (Read 15210 times)

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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #75 on: February 01, 2018, 11:06:41 PM »
@Ben A

Apologies if this as been asked, I have reread the whole thread to find an answer.

I'm interested in a pair with a tail light. What is the minimum curve for these please? 

I have R2s on my layout and the gap between the wagons appears very narrow (understandably), and along with their total length, I have concerns that they may knock themselves on tight curves.

Can you enlighten me please.

Thanks in anticipation
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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #76 on: February 01, 2018, 11:10:43 PM »
Sorry if I have missed it but what is the minimum radius negotiable by these wagons?

It would be a bit disappointing to splash out £400 on a trains-worth and not be able to run them!  My VGAs have a bit of a struggle.......  :confused1:

Cheers Jon  :)

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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #77 on: February 01, 2018, 11:20:51 PM »

Hello all,

They are specified for 12" radius curves but can manage 9".  I tested them today.  The kinematic coupler avoids buffer lock, but the long wheelbase means that they don't like anything tighter than 9", and even at 9" you can feel some resistance.

They are nice and heavy though, like all Revolution models, so they shouldn't derail - just give the loco a bit more work to do!

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« Reply #78 on: February 02, 2018, 11:17:13 PM »
just placed my order.  Dead excited now!!!

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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2018, 11:39:52 AM »
Hi Ben A
While I was finally getting to ordering the IZA pairs I had a look at the art work to find the differences between original and revised livery and I spotted two cases where most probably german umlauts would be used. I highlighted the two instances in the attachments below. Would it be possible to double check this against actual photos?

On the original livery it appears to be "Gewahrleistung" on the far right -> I would expect "Gewährleistung"

On the revised livery it reads "Stuck guter" on the left -> I would expect "Stück güter". The space in the middle looks unusual too, but I have no pictures to suggest otherwise.

I have no idea if these would be legible on the final model, though. It just looks wired to me.

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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2018, 09:04:56 PM »
Got my order in :claphappy:

3 twin packs and a Perrier single pair. Will certainly make a nice rake that, but until the layout is built, they will be safely stored away. Ok I might just have a sneaky play on my test loop :P

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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2018, 09:56:39 PM »
Oh lord, just put my order in.

Ben and Mike; please don't do a class 90!  :worried:

Cheers Jon  :)
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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #82 on: February 04, 2018, 01:13:20 PM »
Hi Ben A
On the original livery it appears to be "Gewahrleistung" on the far right -> I would expect "Gewährleistung"

On the revised livery it reads "Stuck guter" on the left -> I would expect "Stück güter". The space in the middle looks unusual too, but I have no pictures to suggest otherwise.



Hi MacRat,

Thanks for your comments.

The graphics on the website are indicative; significantly more research was done before the "proper" livery artwork was sent to China.

The Stuckguter on the model has one umlaut only:



At the other end, the Gewahrleistung - which is even smaller - does seem to be missing the umlaut.



These errors are down to me; it is to my shame that despite being something of a Germanophile I do not actually speak the language.  I worked from good photographs and this must have been an oversight that was not picked up by me or those who checked the artwork.

TBH I am pretty impressed these words are even close to being legible at all!

To be fair the the factory has printed exactly what was sent, and to correct it would require a new tampo mask for all the small lettering. 

As you may know from our Rapido thread we do try to correct errors spotted by our supporters, but there is a balance and in my judgement this is just too small an error to scrap the existing tampo mask and replace.

Sorry - I will try to do better next time!

Cheers

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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #83 on: February 04, 2018, 01:48:40 PM »
Can be rectified by those who want to with a single hair paintbrush  :D

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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #84 on: February 04, 2018, 02:04:02 PM »
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 Sorry - I will try to do better next time!
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A noble goal but you haven't left much room for improvement. ;) :thumbsup:
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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #85 on: February 04, 2018, 02:17:06 PM »
Can be rectified by those who want to with a single hair paintbrush  :D

Could I use my single hair head? :hmmm:

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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #86 on: February 04, 2018, 03:59:39 PM »
To be fair to Ben , i will probably be weathering mine, and as such with the real things that pass my local station, you can barely read the cargo waggon branding to be honest let alone anything else.

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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #87 on: February 04, 2018, 04:01:27 PM »
On another site Jenny Emily has a Hornby (sorry) wagon which has :

"This is too small to read, good luck" in the Tampo printing on one side of the wagon.

Ans that's in OO.

I think we'll be fine with this in N

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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #88 on: February 04, 2018, 07:37:45 PM »
Can be rectified by those who want to with a single hair paintbrush  :D

Could I use my single hair head? :hmmm:

Only if I can borrow it - I don't even have one!

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Re: Exclusive - IT'S TWINS FOR REVOLUTION TRAINS!
« Reply #89 on: February 08, 2018, 03:28:45 PM »
@Ben A, Thank you for your answer. I understand the situation.
Are the pictures from the actual model? That quality is quite impressive.

 

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