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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #165 on: February 01, 2014, 11:57:45 PM »
Thanks for the tips on the gasometer.   :thankyousign:

The Kestrel houses have always had an attraction and reading the makeover done in N'spirations 3 was enough to make me do something.  I'll end up with 8 or 9 depending on side yards - but that's for a different thread.
 
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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #166 on: February 02, 2014, 12:03:19 AM »
... I am hoping for a similar sort of effect to put mine on my layout based on St Alban's Abbey which had the St Alban's Gas Works as a major source of traffic and a significant presence brooding over the yard.

Nice single track plan.

My local station was Watford North for more than 25 years and used the 'Abbey Flyer' a fair bit.

The gasworks and sidings are long gone from the Abbey end. There's posh offices on the site now. Slogging up Holywell Hill was a killer!

Dave G

Actually I'm looking at doing it when it was a GNR/LNWR joint terminus - in 2mmFS!
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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #167 on: February 02, 2014, 09:04:48 AM »
... I am hoping for a similar sort of effect to put mine on my layout based on St Alban's Abbey which had the St Alban's Gas Works as a major source of traffic and a significant presence brooding over the yard.

Nice single track plan.

My local station was Watford North for more than 25 years and used the 'Abbey Flyer' a fair bit.

The gasworks and sidings are long gone from the Abbey end. There's posh offices on the site now. Slogging up Holywell Hill was a killer!

Dave G

Actually I'm looking at doing it when it was a GNR/LNWR joint terminus - in 2mmFS!

Well before my time so will be interesting to watch it develop.

Dave G

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #168 on: February 02, 2014, 09:33:58 PM »
I've just found this wonderful model railway; fantastic period details. the next best thing to taking a trip in the Tardis. (I wonder if the good doctor has ever visited Frankland?) I love the buildings and street scenes. The period-style updates are works of art in themselves.

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #169 on: February 08, 2015, 04:34:44 PM »
1926: New Stock for Frankland






Hello everyone,

well it's 1926 here on Frankland and Mr Maunsell's new carriages have been delivered.

They were first glimpsed early the other morning in the carriage sidings.




Firstly a three set plus van arrived ....






Then shortly after a four set and van were hauled in, followed by a couple of loose carriages for bolstering.
They look quite magnificent I think.





Today I pottered over to Frankland to catch a glimpse of the 3.55 semi-fast from Amblesea to London passing through.







The semi-fasts from Amblesea are always a 3-set and the first carriage is a Brake Third





The second carraige is a Composite





And at the back is a second Brake Third, plus a van, because of course, everyone always sends their luggage ahead.






As I'm sure you know, the subject of Southern Railway set numbers is quite a complex matter, but a quick flick through my reference book about all-things Frankland quickly established that these sets are in the 251 - 264 range.




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Next up are a couple of detail pictures.

The first shows the gangways, which I believe are a first in N gauge. They really make a visual difference.






Other delightful details include Smoking Signs on the windows, retaining clips for Destination  Boards, and seat number indicators.







So that's the three set. The Southern retained a good stock of additional 'loose carriages' to bolster their sets, which could include Pullmans, Restuarant cars etc.



Mr Maunsell's order included some additional 'loose' stock for Frankland: Here's are an all-First and all-Third corridor ...









and some vans ...




At some point I think the rooves of the carriages could do with a little toning down. Out of the box they appear ex-works. Maybe I'll leave one set ex-works, and another I'll tone down, it's good to have a bit of a mish-mash of finishes.



Finally, I received some tail lamps this week, obviously essential for the end of each set. 
Along with a florin, half-crown, tanner and farthing - I do miss 'proper' money  ;)






Thanks for listening :)

Mark
« Last Edit: February 08, 2015, 06:21:21 PM by Southernboy »

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #170 on: February 08, 2015, 05:13:29 PM »
Great to hear from you Mark.

Any chance of an overall update on Franklands.  Wonderful modelling...
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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #171 on: February 08, 2015, 05:20:21 PM »
they look great behind the T9

and the faux book cover is as inspired as the layout

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #172 on: February 08, 2015, 05:39:04 PM »
Hello Greybeema,

a proper newsreel will follow in due course, but only after the 3-Subs are finished, so it may be some months yet I'm afraid:)

chorleysteve:
'faux book cover'?   :goggleeyes:  Have you tried eBay or reputable antiique book sellers? It's really a book worth obtaining if you have any interest in the subject matter :)

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #173 on: February 08, 2015, 05:50:55 PM »
I say Frankland has a really good time machine, seeing as the first low-window 'standard' Maunsells were delivered in July and October 1926... :)
« Last Edit: February 08, 2015, 05:52:03 PM by talisman56 »
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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #174 on: February 08, 2015, 06:36:04 PM »
Did I say 1924?

Are you sure I didn't say 1926?  I'm certain if you go back and check my thread it is dated 1926 ;)


Either way, I bow to your better knowleadge Talisman :)  Frankland for me is more about a broad sense of time and place rather than day/date/time accuracy, even if I am cheeky enough to go back and amend an original post to make it look like I know what I'm talking about when actually I'm just winging it !

But I do thank you for your correction. It's the only way I'll learn! I went straight back into my library and pulled out all my books realating to Mausell  in order to refresh my mind.

Thank you for pulling my socks up !

Mark

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #175 on: February 08, 2015, 06:42:10 PM »
We really need a 'tongue in cheek' smiley...  :)
My inspiration - never let a setback get you down...

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #176 on: February 08, 2015, 07:40:25 PM »
Mark - your post reads as if the corridor connections come as part of the package with the coaches. Is that a fact or are they 'scratch built' please?

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #177 on: February 08, 2015, 08:47:55 PM »
Hello Mr Nobby,

The carraiges come with a 'connector' which you insert into the end of one carriage.

You insert the connector where you would expect to find the gangway door.
The gangway is telecopic, so you pull it out, and do likewise on the other carriage next to it. The 'connector' keeps the two adjacent carriage gangways in alignnment,

It's quite ingenious :)


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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #178 on: February 09, 2015, 09:50:59 AM »
'faux book cover'?   :goggleeyes:  Have you tried eBay or reputable antiique book sellers? It's really a book worth obtaining if you have any interest in the subject matter :)

The book looks well worth a read. I must keep an eye out for a copy  ;)

Thanks for another great report from Frankland. The coaches certainly do look wonderful and, like you, I'm thinking of different levels of 'mild' weathering for them in my 1930 snapshot of the SR. The van, though, must have been delivered by Tardis, as it was only shipped out by Eastleigh in 1938.  :-[  Still, it's the general presentation that counts. I'm guilty of having a few items of post-1930 rolling stock myself. Whoops.

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #179 on: February 09, 2015, 11:14:05 AM »
What's a mere 10-12 years among friends..... :D.

Must admit Frankland is a mighty fine layout, don't know if a video is
available, would be good to see it  in action.
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