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Author Topic: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s  (Read 68716 times)

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #150 on: June 22, 2013, 10:55:31 PM »
I have only just found this thread.  Oh boy!  What superb modelling.  So well observed, and superbly modelled.  I think I'm going to give up modelling and take up tiddlywinks or something.
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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #151 on: June 24, 2013, 01:10:33 AM »
I was going to try adding something in a Tim Nice-But-Dim style but got stuck on hello!

Harloo,Dim,Tim Nice-But-Dim herre.....

Hard work this trying to get a specific accent translated.

Anyway,for the umpteenth time already,fantastic layout,superb buildings,blah,blah,blah.

I too have read the thread on other forums of this layout which always has people making comments about not believing its n gauge or 2mm scale.Just shows what can be done and gives our chosen scale which some still regard as toyish a boost.

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #152 on: June 24, 2013, 01:27:28 PM »
Absolutely stunning. I still have lot to learn! ::)

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #153 on: June 24, 2013, 08:04:54 PM »
 :jawdropping: Such imagination, skill and presentation...I haven't even laid a piece of track...will someone please pass me the Prozac  :'(

If anyone one comes looking for me, Ill be sitting on my N gauge viaduct contemplating whether to end my fledgling modelling life or, to go round npn's with my needles  :(

@Southernboy  :thumbsup:

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #154 on: June 24, 2013, 09:49:32 PM »


If anyone one comes looking for me, Ill be sitting on my N gauge viaduct contemplating whether to end my fledgling modelling life or, to go round npn's with my needles  :(

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #155 on: February 01, 2014, 12:49:26 PM »
Just come back to this thread - well I have lurked several times so it isn't all new - and funnily enough its because of the first page!

I have just put together the same gasometer kit from Walters and I was wondering if you could give all of us (but me especially  :D) a run down on it again.  I am hoping for a similar sort of effect to put mine on my layout based on St Alban's Abbey which had the St Alban's Gas Works as a major source of traffic and a significant presence brooding over the yard.

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #156 on: February 01, 2014, 01:01:25 PM »
Southernboy - it's about time for another little video - it's a year since the last one!

Or some photos at least!

Cheers  Jon    :)
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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #157 on: February 01, 2014, 02:38:12 PM »
... I am hoping for a similar sort of effect to put mine on my layout based on St Alban's Abbey which had the St Alban's Gas Works as a major source of traffic and a significant presence brooding over the yard.

Nice single track plan.

My local station was Watford North for more than 25 years and used the 'Abbey Flyer' a fair bit.

The gasworks and sidings are long gone from the Abbey end. There's posh offices on the site now. Slogging up Holywell Hill was a killer!

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #158 on: February 01, 2014, 03:15:16 PM »
Hello Sithlord75,

I can't believe it was seven years ago that I built the gasometer, for my first rendition of Frankland. I've had it so long that I often don't even notice it's there any more! But I still love it. It really sets an atmosphere and is a great focal point.

I'm afraid that back then I wasn't in the habit of taking pictures of work-in-progress, so only have the photos below taken on completion.





Construction was per the instructions that came with the kit.

Before painting I did a lot of picture research on the web for inspiration on colours. I believe colours tended to be light (I suppose to make gasometers less incongruous against the skyline) but over the years (especially toward the end of town gas and in the years of abandonment since)  the degree of rust increased until you get to the point where the whole structure became just dark and satanic rusty browns and oranges.

So which colours you paint depends on your timeframe. Mine was painted as a gasometer in use, but a little dilapidated all-the-same.

I used Vallejo Acrylics - a Sea-Green and Duck-Egg Blue if I remember rightly.

On the top I stenciled the letters you see (the paint was stippled), which I'd read was something done to the top selected buildings along flight paths in the early days of aviation to aid pilot navigation before they had instruments to direct them.

Next I dry-brushed two horizontal bands using weathered browny / orange colours (around one third and two-thirds up the structure) to represent the oily/rusty sediment that would accumulate where the cylinders telescoped up and down according to pressure. I did this with a number of light applications to gradually build a patina, varying the mix of paints a little each time,

I then loosely washed vertically with light sooty colours to represent years of smoke and grime and rainfall.

Finally I used some mid browns and bright oranges for the rusted areas. For these I combined washes / dry brushing / stippling to various degrees until they 'looked right'.

A matt aerosol varnish sealed the finished model. I didn't know about weathering powders in 2007 - so didn't apply them, but guess I still could.


Hope that helps and I look forward to seeing how your gasometer turns out. I'm also going to catch up on your blog - I just took a quick flick to see you have some of the Kestrel semi-detached houses (amongst other things) - I'll be interested to find out how you got on with those.

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Hello Jon,

that's a very timely question as I made a short video a few days ago. In my signature is a link to my workbench where you'll see progress on three 3-Subs I have been working on.

When finished one of the units will be in LSWR livery, and the other two in early Southern Railway Livery.

I made my own couplings and the video was a test of how they performed on tight curves. The reason I wanted to test was because the couplings bring the gap between carriages down to 4mm, so I needed to ensure there was no buffeting on the curves.

http://youtu.be/id2X_z_6NDA

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Thanks for your interest :)


Mark

« Last Edit: February 01, 2014, 03:46:52 PM by Southernboy »

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #159 on: February 01, 2014, 03:26:59 PM »
Hurrah!    :claphappy:

Jon  :)
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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #160 on: February 01, 2014, 05:30:56 PM »
I reckon you have that close coupling as tight as you can get, Mark :thumbsup:

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #161 on: February 01, 2014, 05:50:32 PM »
Thanks,

here's a picture, the gap as I say is around 4mm.




That's the closest I can get without the cars buffeting on corners ...





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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #162 on: February 01, 2014, 06:25:07 PM »
Fantastic modelling and great videos. How far are you off completing the layout?

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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #163 on: February 01, 2014, 06:46:14 PM »
Hello willike1958,

I think around five years.

I made a list the other day of the major things still to do:

1) A bank of shops at the top of the hill
2) Flats with integral tube station at the top of the hill
3) Small business next to the semis
4) Pub and/or shops at bottom of hill
5) Tube station at bottom of hill
6) Cinema at bottom of hill
7) Department store at bottom of hill

Then rail-side I have:

1) Frankland Station
2) Frankland Park Station
3) Sub Station
4) Signal Box

There are also things like back-scene, fencing, signalling, people, street lamps, telegraph poles, more road vehicles etc to add.

That long list should keep me out of mischief for quite some while :)
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Re: Frankland: Southern Railway | London Suburban | 1920s/30s
« Reply #164 on: February 01, 2014, 07:09:24 PM »
Thanks for the update Southernboy - Its been a long time...
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