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Author Topic: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive  (Read 25894 times)

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Online Roy L S

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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #270 on: October 17, 2018, 08:47:59 PM »
Only 300 confirmed orders for the King and yet only 100 short of pressing the "go" button? Based on everything Ben and Mike have told us about viable production batch size I would be pretty confident Dave wouldn't even contemplate tooling based on those numbers.

Very surprising indeed if the take-up of a really iconic steam loco such as the King is that slow and compared to that the failed RevolutioN 21/29 project appears to have done comparatively well!

Maybe there has been a miisinterpretation somewhere. I feel pretty confident even Nobby's wishlist 6-6-4 Isle of Scilly tank loco would do better than that!

Roy

Be careful of magicking up numbers.  There is no mention of 300 from DJ - this has been guessed by someone else and adopted as fact.

The project requires (required a few days ago) 100 more orders to proceed as a project (not any sub stage).

So its time for us to dig deep if we want it to succeed.

I haven't "magicked up" any numbers I actually positioned my opening sentence as a question and was challenging that the number quoted looked unrealistic for the project to proceed based on known MOQs and suggested misinterpretation of info from whatever source and a possible reason.

Although not a loco for me I am really keen to see this project proceed as it's success will establish Dave in this space and hopefully encourage other steam locos via a similar route to be proposed.


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Roy

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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #271 on: October 17, 2018, 09:41:26 PM »
Here are the King order numbers provided by Dave himself on 14 September on RMWeb:

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Original Crowdfunder sign ups / 'expressions of interest' = 706
Current Crowdfunder deposits paid                               = 264


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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #272 on: October 17, 2018, 10:45:55 PM »
A lot can happen in a month.

Time to spam facebook groups.
DC or DCC, that is the question.

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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #273 on: October 23, 2018, 12:36:05 PM »
No. 2 newsletter received fro DJ. A few more orders received and deposit for tooling design paid.  :)
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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #274 on: December 06, 2018, 05:06:33 PM »
I suspect a lot is happening behind the scenes with the King as I know that Dave is particularly keen to get this model into the hands of crowdfunders and eventually a second run to go on general sale. 2019 should be good!
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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #275 on: March 20, 2019, 04:03:54 PM »
This has all gone quiet. Any news anyone?
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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #276 on: March 20, 2019, 04:13:34 PM »
I suspect that not much has happened over Chinese new year. I am sure Dave will announce something when he has something to show us.
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #277 on: March 20, 2019, 06:19:32 PM »
Thanks for the response
Will await something from Dave
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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #278 on: March 21, 2019, 10:12:00 AM »
On the DJ Models home page, if you scroll down a bit, he has just started to write blog entries as one of his methods of keeping people informed, rather than use forums.  Only two entries so far (and the first one was to say why he was doing it), but probably worth keeping an eye on.

Regards

Stu

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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #279 on: April 06, 2019, 12:03:55 PM »
Just posted by MarshLane on the RmWeb

If this is correct it is very good news.

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There is a deal been done with Digitrains in Lincoln to produce an exclusive limited edition of the King in N of 6000 King George V fully fitted with DCC sound, which has got the project over the line and means that its going to be delivered.

 

Had an interesting bit of a chat with Dave, and it is obvious that he's passionate about what he wants to do - but I think a lot of us (me included) forget the huge sums of money involved in the production of a model these days.  While we think the time to deliver is long at times (although Bachmann, Hornby and Dapol are no better to be honest)  and purchase price is higher than we'd like sometimes, but try adding three zeros to the cost - that must give an idea of the finance involved in buying a 1000 of them in.  I doubt a bank would ever loan a business that kind of money on the off chance a 2mm model sells.  Others have told me what Dave has put into this, and whether you support him or not, if its right, it sounds like he's taken some very brave choices to try and make this work.  He's not a Bachmann or Dapol where there are numerous people working on things, its a one-man band.  With the update on projects that are on the other DJM thread, while I appreciate a lot of people have concerns, but if it reaches fruition like Dave says the Shark and Mermaids will this November, then everyone wins? 

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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #280 on: April 06, 2019, 12:20:40 PM »
This is on the latest message on the DJM web site

N gauge APT Current orders of 118 of 400 needed.
N gauge J94 current orders of 112 of 800 needed.
N gauge Mogul Current orders 236 of 1000 needed.
N gauge shark delivery November 19.
N gauge Mermaids Delivery November 19.
N gauge King minimum order number reached, tooling to commence imminently.
N gauge class 92 tooling imminent.
N gauge MK5 coaches licence granted.

It's good to know that the King is going ahead, but a bit worrying about the expression of interest for the J94 and Mogul. Maybe once the King is released more people will have faith and sign up

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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #281 on: April 06, 2019, 01:28:33 PM »
Mk5 coaches?! Whaaaaaaaat?

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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #282 on: April 06, 2019, 01:43:42 PM »
Mk5 coaches?! Whaaaaaaaat?
Donít get too excited, DJModels has dropped the mk5 due to two manufacturers already developing. As Dave says two maybe a problem but three manufacturers cannot be sustained by the market.

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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #283 on: April 06, 2019, 04:53:53 PM »
Wasnít excited, more incredulous in view of the duplication, but seems thatís moot - thought Iíd missed something today.

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Re: DJ Models researching King Class steam locomotive
« Reply #284 on: April 06, 2019, 05:09:28 PM »
The danger is especially with something obvious like Mk5's it's a foot race to be first.

What interested me was the comment that DJ thought he would be the "third" source of Mk5's.

 

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