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Grafar J94 Repaint
« on: September 17, 2016, 08:33:30 AM »
Last year (eek!) I wrote up enhancing a Grafar J94's rear portholes

I decided to model Austerity 2879, Diana, which.was built in 1943, served at various Yorkshire mines for the NCB, and by 40 ended up with the Caledonian Railway, Brechin.



(From [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/peter_todd/6295053323]https://www.flickr.com/photos/peter_todd/6295053323[/url])

So, following the primer, two coats of gloss red.



Once completely cured (Ok, 6 months is over.cautious..),  mask off.then add the gloss black areas. I've also.gloss blacked the inside, including the door.and window surrounds, so the thickness of the body shell disappears.



I plan to.line the loco with coach lining decals and will.update here as I go - could be a long job!

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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2016, 08:45:18 AM »
Looking good.

If this was me, I'd be adding a satin varnish (at minimum) to tone down the gloss a bit. That greasy, glossy look of well maintained steam locos is difficult to model. But I think sticking with gloss 'as is' might be overdoing it.

On the other hand, the gloss finish is exactly what you want to have when adding decals. So any satin would be added afterwards.

Do you plan on adding any weathering? I'd have thought a must for an industrial loco!

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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2016, 11:41:41 AM »
Looking good.

If this was me, I'd be adding a satin varnish (at minimum) to tone down the gloss a bit. That greasy, glossy look of well maintained steam locos is difficult to model. But I think sticking with gloss 'as is' might be overdoing it.

On the other hand, the gloss finish is exactly what you want to have when adding decals. So any satin would be added afterwards.

Do you plan on adding any weathering? I'd have thought a must for an industrial loco!

Cheers, NeMo


Hi - yes, agree with all that (here's one I baked earlier. ;) )

I prefer to work in gloss (tougher and more resilient as well as better.for decals) then.varnish.over.

Here's the loco in service, featured in the excellent book Working and Preserved Industrial Locomotives by Peter Tuffrey (Fonthill Media).



Haven't decided how weathered I'll make this one - depends how well the lining turns out!

Mike
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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2016, 12:01:59 PM »
It's going to be difficult getting the balance between that wet greasy look on the saddle tank sides, the matt soot across the top surface, and the somewhat in-between grime around the wheels. But a fun challenge no doubt -- look forward to seeing your finished model.

By the way, I'm very tempted to pick up an old Farish saddle tank next time I come across one for just the same reason as you. I'd like to paint one to go alongside my NCB Class 14. The question is whether to hold out for a DJM version!?

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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2016, 12:05:09 PM »
It's going to be difficult getting the balance between that wet greasy look on the saddle tank sides, the matt soot across the top surface, and the somewhat in-between grime around the wheels.

Plus it seems to have been a rainy day...!
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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2016, 12:37:06 PM »
Plus it seems to have been a rainy day...!

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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2016, 05:35:47 PM »
Aren't cameras cruel?

Here's the first few lines just on. As you'd expect, the straight ones are easiest!



Despite lots of Decalfix and half an hour's fiddling, I'm still not happy with the cab top edge, but will see how it looks when set.

Time to turn to something else for today. Now, where are those dry stone wall sections?

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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2016, 12:00:37 AM »
Darn sight straighter than I could have got. Love the red.

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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2016, 06:45:16 AM »
Nope, wasn't happy, so took it off (plus some black paint :(  ) and started again. Cut the decal as close to the coloured lines as possible and soaked for even longer. That's better!



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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2016, 12:02:56 PM »
 :thumbsup:

That's the business. Much better.

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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2016, 09:11:24 AM »
Cracking job.   :thumbsup:

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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2016, 10:09:47 AM »
Cracking job.   :thumbsup:

Thank you - am not looking forward to lining the front edge of the tank!

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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2016, 07:47:01 PM »
Well, inching (actually millimetre-ing) forwards:



I'm using Railtec 4mm coaching stock lining.

I'll be trimming then touching in the corners with paint when all the lines are on.

One tip: don't try to apply adjacent sections in one sitting: I aim to apply the horizontals of one small area at one time, then the verticals in another session when the first lot are completely set.

Mike

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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2016, 07:29:22 PM »
Slow progress...



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Re: Grafar J94 Repaint
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2016, 09:09:20 PM »
Looking pretty damn stunning :)


 

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