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Offline Wayne Kinney

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1020 on: February 28, 2018, 01:38:46 PM »
Hi Guys,

OK, little update...

I have just got samples from the new supplier of lost wax cast crossing frogs. Unfortunately the results are only about 50% quality of the previous supplier (that is no longer supplying) and not usable for the kits. I believe the issue is happening at the mould stage, where they inject hot molten wax into the mould. I believe the mould is not filling properly.

I have been scratching my head for about 3 hours trying to come up with a solution. I have thoughts about CNC milling them, photo etching but each has there pro's/con's...

Before I started using the previous supplier (Just Like the Real Thing), I was using a 3D printed Wax service to directly 3D print the waxes and cast them. At the time (4 years ago) JLTRT then did not want to cast from my 3D printed waxes an insisted on moulds being made. So moulds were used for the last 4 years.

I think I will try this approach again as it removes the need for moulds.

This is costing a little time and money, but until I get to a working solution, there is only limited stock of current kit castings, and the slip kits will be on hold until we get to a solution.

Sorry for the delay and fuss...

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1021 on: February 28, 2018, 03:06:53 PM »
Thanks for that @Wayne Kinney.
Just wondering if there is the option of fabricating the frog? Perhaps supply the ready bent rail for the modeller to apply to the base?
Ok, might be a bit more for the modeller to have to do, but is it at least worth consideration, if the other methods dont work out?

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1022 on: February 28, 2018, 04:13:32 PM »
Definitely worth looking at I'd say, if only as an option/stopgap until you sort out the castings. I know you do the cast frogs to save effort for the end user, but I think having 'proper' rail-built frogs does look better.

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1023 on: March 01, 2018, 11:49:53 AM »
Sorry to hear about your troubles. Have you considered reaching out to kit makers like Slaters, who are capable of producing very good lost-wax castings, and asking them if they can put you in touch with their supplier (or if they'd supply for you, if they do it in-house)?

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1024 on: March 02, 2018, 11:10:55 AM »
Thanks for your suggestions.

I am persisting with getting them cast as it keeps the kit easy to build which is the whole 'point', really.

I have received the 3D printed waxes, 1in8 frog crossing in this case. I will forward them to the new supplier/caster to be directly invested (no moulds involved).

Below are 2 pics, sorry for the awful macro photography:



I am also getting waxes 3D printed for the slip kits, should have these tomorrow so will also get them cast at the same time.

This route does increase the cost of producing them a little, I might need to raise the price of the kits slightly, but it will only be less then 1 rise.
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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1025 on: March 02, 2018, 11:23:24 AM »
Very good! You can use those for the insulfrog version ;-)

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1026 on: March 02, 2018, 11:54:37 AM »
In what geometries will the slips be available please Wayne?

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1027 on: March 02, 2018, 04:35:32 PM »
Hi,

They will be available as single/double slip in 1in6, 1in7, 1in8,1in9 & 1in10...

Its just getting this first kit released that's the hard work.... :)
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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1028 on: March 06, 2018, 09:20:26 AM »
Hi Guys,

Unfortunately my mother passed away on Sunday afternoon, so apologies if updated become a little slower over the next week :(

I will be sending the 3D printed waxes over to the lost wax caster today, hopefully should get them turn around in a week. I have included waxes for the slip kits.
Thanks,
Wayne.

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1029 on: March 06, 2018, 09:22:41 AM »
Deepest sympathies Wayne, hope you have lots of lovely memories. 

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1030 on: March 06, 2018, 09:25:44 AM »
So sorry to hear the bad news.  All the best to you and your family Wayne.

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1031 on: March 06, 2018, 09:45:08 AM »
Sincere condolences, Wayne.

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1032 on: March 06, 2018, 10:21:30 AM »
Waye ,
Sorry to read of loss , family first so keep well and thoughts to you and family

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1033 on: March 09, 2018, 12:05:30 PM »
Thanks for your kind replies, guys!

Feeling a little better now, thanks. Might I ask a favor from someone?

Does anyone have a couple of lengths of code 40 flat bottom rail from the 2mm SA that they could let me have?
Thanks,
Wayne.

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Re: 'Gauging' Interest- New fiNetrax code 40 N Gauge Track System?
« Reply #1034 on: March 16, 2018, 12:39:22 PM »
Hi Guys,

Feeling a little better after having a chance to mourn the passing of my mother (thanks for the kind words and condolences on previous page).

I am now continuing with work and trying to fulfill backed up orders (sorry anyone waiting).

I have received cast nickel silver samples from the 3D printed waxes and they are nice so I believe this will be the process I will continue to use. I have some nice samples for the single/double slip, also.

I am also looking into the flat bottom rail plain line and turnouts again. I have found HIPS sheet material to mill 'concrete' bases, this is a mid to light grey/silver (lighter then mid grey) but not as bright/light grey as the concrete sleeper moldings from the 2MM SA.

Does this matter, do you think? If I match the plain line to this silver grey do you guys think that will be suitable?
« Last Edit: March 16, 2018, 12:41:27 PM by Wayne Kinney »
Thanks,
Wayne.

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