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Author Topic: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.  (Read 57102 times)

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Offline Bealman

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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #915 on: September 07, 2019, 10:27:31 AM »
I agree, look at that photo!

Doesn't matter how much you think you may have messed up, you've had a shot at it, and it turned out ok!

It's not out of the box anymore. It's a personalised model!  :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #916 on: September 07, 2019, 12:19:00 PM »
:dunce: Hello?

I messed up re-lettering on an old Roundhouse boxcar. :doh:
It had SP's "Speed lettering" and I wanted to change it by applying Roman lettering.
I tried Micro-set method to remove it as I saw on a YouTube video but it didn't work at all. (It worked on an Atlas engine though.)
Then I saw another YouTube video that using Automobile compound.
Of course I'm too lazy and cheap to go get one.
So I used toothpaste instead. It worked but I applied it too hard and the body colour came out too!  :o
Now I had to repaint where scratched paint was.
I didn't want to repaint whole thing since "Hydra Cushion" logo and rest of details are intact.
As you can imagine, It was impossible to match repaint colour to the original one. Especially with my sense of colours.


Attempting a patchwork. Sad situation. :confused1:
Just sprayed gross coat.


Changed to the Roman lettering but a sad patching job is evident. Adding sadness to my hart.
Waiting for spraying dull coat.
Weathering might help disguising it a bit......sad.
Only thing that help this situation is eating deep fried food and forget about it.

See what happens when I apply a layer of dull coat and weather it.

Dats

It's not easy removing logos or other markings without damaging the paint surface below.
I usually apply a cotton bud dipped in enamel thinners (Humbrol or Revell) to the chosen area but it sometimes leaves a polished sheen.
Sometimes gentle rubbing with the end of a fingernail works.

Your attempt looks OK as it is, a bit of carefully-applied weathering to blend in the colours should work.
You could also say it was a patch-paint job at the car works after an incident!
"I believe in positive, timely solutions, not vague, future promises"

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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #917 on: September 07, 2019, 11:20:17 PM »
 :dunce: More deep fried food please!

Thank you very much for your comments.
I appreciate your information and kind words very much!

Well, I did it again. Yes, I messed up.
I forgot how a layer of dull coat react to alcohol thinned wash.
It happened on my mechanical reefer before and I totally forgot about it! :goggleeyes:
It dissolves or something funky things happen on dull coat and make a big white mess.  :scowl:
Now I need to eat more deep fried food and adding to my belly mass.  :thumbsup:


Too messy result due to lack of my long term memory.
I've seen beaten up cars like this recently but I'm not sure that back in 80's had those cars. I imagine that they kept cars in better shape back then. :hmmm:
I'd love to learn how to weather less obvious.



The other side is totally clean and so weird to see it.
A Memorandum to myself:
"Today's lesson learned- Do not use alcohol thinned wash over dull coat."

 :dunce: Dats
« Last Edit: September 08, 2019, 10:19:31 AM by dats475 »
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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #918 on: September 08, 2019, 07:43:09 AM »
I think it looks better! I don't buy the idea that trains, especially freight trains, used to be immaculate. OK, graffiti's pretty modern, but sun, rain, ice, snow, smoke, oil, spilled loads have always been around, and paints were less durable, less standardised, brands and logos hand painted not printed. It's my theory that almost no-one wasted expensive film on dirty trains, whereas now we all capture reality digitally for free.

Here's a picture from 1995:

http://www.getty.edu/art/collection/objects/222925/jeff-brouws-penn-central-boxcar-x29g-youngstown-oh-american-1995/

Mike
« Last Edit: September 08, 2019, 10:56:07 AM by maridunian »

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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #919 on: September 08, 2019, 08:02:24 AM »
That is one grotty looking sad wagon!
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #920 on: September 08, 2019, 08:27:43 AM »
Seems to me that real freight cars have patched paint jobs too. Once you weather it a bit, eat a bit of deep fried stuff,  and start running it, you'll foget all about it.

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Indeed they do. With all the mega mergers in the 1980s and 1990s it took a lot of time just to repaint locomotives, I imagine fleets of freight cars in their tens of thousands weren't a huge priority. I believe with the Conrail split, CSX got the NYC reporting mark and Norfolk Southern got the PRR, so they just applied those to the Conrail freight cars they picked up and there's still quite a bit out there with CR on them. It took 12 years for them to repaint their Conrail locos, as the last ones I saw were in 2011!

On the subject of patch jobs:
CSX hopper, Crofton,KY 8/28/2019 by Jeff  Wagoner, on Flickr



This one is interesting...a former R.J. Corman ballast hopper (RJC is headquartered in Kentucky and owns about 15 short lines in the eastern US) on the Paducah & Louisville, another Kentucky railroad:
PAL 953553, Cecilia,KY 8/25/2016 by Jeff  Wagoner, on Flickr

Some stuff does manage to dodge the paint shop for years:
trains3152016 101 by Jeff  Wagoner, on Flickr

I know Athearn has produced a few "patch" cars, mostly hoppers. I think there's at least two kinds with CSX/C&O markings on them. I have a few ex-Western Maryland cars that would just need weathering to look realistic.

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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #921 on: September 08, 2019, 11:04:48 AM »
Hey Dats

What are you talking about?  Your SP car looks excellent to me!  If you think I would gladly run that on the MHRR then that should be good enough for you!

By the way, don't tell anyone else, but I've started using this range of products.  It's designed for wargamers (I do that as well).  Just shake it up, and then put a little squirt on a plate.  Pick some up on your brush and just pull it down over your box car, hopper, whatever.  You can do two or three coats if you want a more dirty vehicle, but one coat looks great as well!  Also I use variations of two or three different shades as well.  You can see what happened to the WP car (compare it to the one I sent you last Christmas!)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Warpaint-QS-Soft-Tone-Ink-The-Army-Painter/112590297471?hash=item1a36e7997f:g:EMYAAOSwhQBalFT5




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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #922 on: September 08, 2019, 10:03:57 PM »
Agreed! That looks just fine. Railroads are constantly repainting their rolling stock and unless the car gets a overhaul, the paint jobs all look like patches. Plus, as was mentioned - weathering covers up quite a few mistakes.

 :D

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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #923 on: September 10, 2019, 10:17:44 PM »
Don't forget, the real railroads mess up paint jobs too.

How about the Sufferin' Pacific?
http://espee.railfan.net/nonindex/sd40r_photos/7355a_sp-suffern-sd40r-clyde_king.jpg

This was a real paint job, albeit briefly. After it rolled out of the paint shop like this it quickly went back in and was fixed. I believe only three photos of it in this condition even exist, as shot by two photographers who were lucky enough to be close by.

That said, I've seen several CSX diesels with the "CSX" messed up on the side, like "CXX" or the like.

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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #924 on: September 19, 2019, 09:58:12 PM »
 :dunce: Hello?

Thank you very much for your comments.
I'm enjoying and learning from everybody's replies so thank you again.

Snail's pace.

One more vehicle done...for now.


I thought I could emphasize the era with these vehicles but it wasn't effective much.  :scowl:
Oh well it's ok. :uneasy:
The important thing is having fun.....having fun eating deep fried food when I messed up models.  :thumbsup:

Dats
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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #925 on: September 20, 2019, 01:11:49 AM »






Dats, did you move to Australia ( The land down under? ) The cars look good and the best part is you're having fun doing them and that is what the hobby is all about  ;)
Cheers,
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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #926 on: September 20, 2019, 01:49:06 AM »
Whoa!
Those pictures look like my life!
Upside down!
I post it on my daughter's iPod and were right side up.
More deep fried food for me, Yummy!





How about now?
I'm posting on my cellphone.
Hopefully it became right side up...
No, I'm talking about my life, not the photos. :laughabovepost:

This vehicle project gave me an idea.
I have an advice for a person who hesitate to start modelling because worry about messing up.

Advice: Establish a policy which is if you mess up your model, you can eat your favorite most unhealthy fast food.

Now, it's not so bad messing up your model any more.*

Happy (messing up) modelling!
Dats
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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #927 on: September 20, 2019, 02:05:37 AM »


Dats


That's better and lesson of the day, never trust a product from a company that uses a lower case letter as the first letter of a product name, but capitalizes the second letter.  :smiley-laughing:  That's why I have a Dell PC and a Android phone, no upside down pictures  :laugh3:  :claphappy:    On a side note, my descent into PC madness continues, I'll post pictures in my thread  :)
Cheers,
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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #928 on: September 20, 2019, 02:06:59 AM »
The first pair of pics were fine. The new ones are upside down.  :D ;)
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.
« Reply #929 on: September 20, 2019, 02:21:31 AM »
The first pair of pics were fine. The new ones are upside down.  :D ;)

Oh NO...... :smiley-laughing: :laugh3:  :o
Cheers,
Rich S.

 

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