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Author Topic: The Closet Branch - A Low-Tech Layout.  (Read 60505 times)

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #135 on: September 19, 2016, 03:15:55 PM »
Hi, Andy how are you doing?
Thank you for your comment.
I'm not sure what I'm doing so it takes a long time to weather a car.
I read your post on graffiti and the way you did was very informative.
I'll certainly try the techniques next time!

I remember you mentioned that you have M&HRR freight cars.
I just wondering if I could see those.
I don't know when or how and might be in distant future but eventually I'd like to challenge a custom paint on a car myself.
It would be nice if I can make a M&HRR car and run in my layout!
Thank you very much, Andy.

OK, I made the orange trees more darker green by sprinkling fine turf.
Thanks to Webbo's advice, it looks like more closer to the Orange Grove on the picture.
I want to add a lot more details like a ladder, crate boxes and so on.
Oh, concrete pipings for irrigation are missing too.
I've heard that you can use kid's Microbeads for Orange fruits. I'll look around at the crafts store when I go there next time.

To honor his wisdom, I decided to name the Grove " Webbo Orange growers".
With his permission, it's officially open for business!
I probably redo the sign. I can't read the lettering well.

You can't read the sign on the picture but it says "Webbo Orange Growers"

How do you think?

I have a plan to place a mirror to make the Grove bigger. I've told that need the first surface mirror but those are expensive!
No way I can afford that!
I don't even know how I can find a right size mirror.
Can you cut the mirror without cutting my fingers?
If you have any information about the mirror usage on the layouts please help me!! :help:

Today's learning point is "When Webbo speaks, listen carefully".

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #136 on: September 19, 2016, 09:28:25 PM »
Hi Dats, just before I go to the shed to photograph my four MHRR box cars for you, a thought about the mirrors for the orange grove....

Ladies' powder compacts can be picked up very cheaply, or so the wife tells me.  How about seeing if you can get an ultra cheap one from Walgreen's or Walmart or somewhere like that?  Discard the compact, but use the mirror.

Just a thought.  Ok I'll be back in a minute with a photo for you.

Andy
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #137 on: September 19, 2016, 10:27:05 PM »











I have four MHRR cars Dats, numbered after four of my favourite British Diesel Locos from when I was an avid British Rail Enthusiast.  They are 33117 (which I have driven), 47319, 47379 (no picture here) and 47510 (a favourite also of my late Father's).

The deep red is actually a British colour, Carmine Red and relates to British Railways 1950s coaching stock.  A good American alternative is the deep red used on the Pennsylvania Railroad NS Heritage unit.  It's called "Tuscan Red".  Decals are made just as I described in my graffiti description.

Basically, type in the Montrose and Highland Railroad font, which is Times New Roman in Bold and Italicised.  The flags emblem is the Colorado state flag and the Ohio state flag joined together side by side.

That's it, if you would like to have a go at creating a MHRR box car, I'd like to see it.  My cars are 50 feet long, but you can have whichever you like.  I'm also toying with a couple of MHRR gondolas or cement hoppers for the future.

Have fun!

Andy
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #138 on: September 19, 2016, 11:49:08 PM »
Dats, your orange tree colour is right on the money. Webbo Growers may only be a small operation, but it only grows healthy orange trees and the oranges are top notch. I have been wondering about how the oranges were going to be modelled as I'm going to be needing some model apples. Looking forward to seeing the orange trees loaded up with fruit. Model Tech makes a pile of fruit cases that might be useful.

As for your suggested today's learning point: "When Webbo speaks, listen carefully", I say listen at your peril. To accompany this learning point, I have a learning point that I'd like to put out: "BS baffles brains". 

Andy, I think your idea of making your own railroad insignia is a great idea. Do you print up decals and apply them? I'm planning to make up some Shell insignia for application to oil storage tanks at my refinery which is under construction. It seems that Microscale has a sheet of Shell decals, but these are all of an old style not seen since the 70s. Any tips on this?

Webbo

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #139 on: September 20, 2016, 06:59:05 AM »
Hi Webbo

Definitely experiment with making your own waterslide decals.  The paper is easily available from the internet.  I get mine usually from Amazon or sometimes ebay.  If you want light colours on your decals, be sure to buy "white" decal paper, instead of "clear".

I would recommend DIY decals to anyone!

Andy
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #140 on: September 22, 2016, 11:09:39 PM »
Hello!

Captain Andy, thank you so much for your M&HRR car pictures and descriptions you gave me was exactly what I needed!


This car will be a Montrose &Highland RR car....hopefully.



The paint is stripped from the car... Well, sort of.
Andy, my local hobby shop didn't have the M&HRR red colour but a jar of boxcar red was on sale.
Do you mind if I paint my M&HRR car with the boxcar red? It was so cheap you know!
I want to start painting soon!
I still don't know how to create a custom decal yet.

Webbo Orange Growers expansion project.
Yes, I got (pronounce "stole") a small mirror from my wife's cosmetic- whatever it was.
I think I'm safe until she finds out.
It's too small for the job but I took a picture how it looks.
It works when I shot extremely close to the object.
Nevertheless, I still have a hope to successfully and effectively using a mirror on my layout.


Sorry for out of focus picture but you will get an idea.
No Orange yet.

 :camera: Dats

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #141 on: September 23, 2016, 07:16:34 AM »
Dats, of course I don't mind if you use a different colour for your MHRR box car.  I'm sure in times gone by my railroad has used all sorts of paint shades to paint vehicles.  Also consider your railroad is some years in the past, so who's to say their designs weren't different in those days?

If you like, I can send you an email with an attachment perhaps with the artwork for the MHRR car.  Then you could just print it onto a sheet of WHITE decal paper (available at art shops and on Amazon and ebay), and just put them on your car?

Andy
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #142 on: September 23, 2016, 11:23:37 PM »
Captain Andy!
Yes, please send me M&HRR template.
It'll be tremendous help for me!! Thank you very much!!

Well, I have a confession to make.
I...I don't... own an airbrush!
I'm painting the boxcar with a brush and planning to apply three coats of thin paint.
It's not a museum quality but I'm having fun.


After 2nd coat of paint. I need touch up the ladder.
The door has too much paint already.

Dats
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #143 on: September 24, 2016, 05:33:59 PM »
Dats, I'm getting the artwork ready today.

I don't have an airbrush either!

Andy
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #144 on: September 24, 2016, 06:12:29 PM »
OK Dats, if you check your emails, you should have the MHRR artwork.  The flags logos are on a Word document, and the rest is in an Excel document.  If you would like any assistance, please get in touch!

Andy
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #145 on: September 26, 2016, 01:55:07 PM »
Hello, guys!

I bought tree small mirrors and a graphite pencil at craft store yesterday.
I'm experimenting with the mirrors. Not so much of progress so far.
The store didn't have the micro beads (my oranges!). Probably I have to order online.

With Andy's help, M&HRR boxcar is getting better.
I had to buy a decal liquid film and decale solution.
Still my result is not the standard quality.
I'm learning little by little!



How do you apply decals? Any tips?

Dats
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #146 on: September 26, 2016, 10:03:31 PM »
I dont have any tips - but I'll be watching to see how its done!

Ive got some of my own to do at some point...

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #147 on: September 26, 2016, 11:32:59 PM »
Hi dats

Your brush job on the box car looks pretty good to me. Besides, once you get the weathering done, any unevenness due to brushing will contribute to the look and will be well hidden anyway.

I'm intrigued by the mirrors. Any chance of a top view plan showing where you are thinking of putting them? A hand drawn plan would be fine enough just to give us all an idea of what you're thinking.

Webbo

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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #148 on: September 27, 2016, 06:57:54 AM »
Dats, I like what I see so far.

Have you printed out the MHRR artwork on waterslide paper, or on ordinary paper?  Depending on what you use, will determine how to attach them to the car....

Andy
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Re: The Closet Branch - A layout in my closet.
« Reply #149 on: September 28, 2016, 05:05:53 PM »
Hi, guys!
Thank you for your reply.

Donald, thank you for reading this thread. I'm struggling with the decals.
I can't make them sit on irregular surface even with decal solution. Especially larger pieces are difficult for me. I suspect that will have a problem on M&HRR decals, so I practiced with SP decals first to see if I can get it right.
As you can see, the "Hydro-Cushion" decal is quite bad.

Maybe I need to buy Microscale sit(?) solution before applying it.

Webbo,
Thank you for your comment.
I'm too hoping that the weathering would hide my rubbish paint job.
I'll try to draw or take pictures of the mirrors location.

Andy!
Yes, I finally printed the M&HRR logo. I had a problem with ink though. I found out that my printer wouldn't print white colour!!
I didn't realize it until I actually tried to print on black paper.
So, the M&HRR logo will be yellow colour.
I just painted sealant on the decal paper.
Hopefully I can show you very soon!!

Dats

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