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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #720 on: March 28, 2020, 02:07:03 PM »
Hi @exmouthcraig

Thank you for your kind comments.  I was/am very tempted by Maurice's crane and in no way are my comments intended to suggest it is not worth the money.  Indeed, it would be great to see some photos of your Osborn model especially some close-ups to see the finish.

Of course, I could just accuse you of being a "cheque book modeller".  :D

Only kidding, no offence intended.

Who knows, if this one turns out to be a complete disaster then I might be giving Maurice an order post CV19.  It is important to have projects though whilst being stuck in the house.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #721 on: March 28, 2020, 02:19:21 PM »
As requested @Paddy


My GEM hack up

Soon to be discarded into the scrap box when this arrived







No offence taken, I think we all fall into 'cheque book modellers' the prices that we pay BUT as Mr Ando told us modeling Railways is good for the mental health SO it's a price worth paying!!!  :D
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #722 on: March 28, 2020, 04:03:26 PM »
Hi @exmouthcraig

Well, I have to say your original GEM kit version is no slouch in the modelling department - well done Sir!

Having said that, your new crane is indeed at another level.  I see you chose the black livery - any particular reason?  I am/have painted my crane in red and now I realise WHY British Railways chose all over black originally!  Painting something one colour is so much easier - I am surprised Maurice does not charge more for the non-black ones.  ;)

The cabling alone is a work of art.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #723 on: March 28, 2020, 04:28:02 PM »
 :thankyousign: @Paddy  I tried to make it a bit more realistic but after my first impressions of Maurices crane were proven wrong i had to have one. The GEM one is destined to become buried at the bottom of a box somewhere.

Although Clifton Wood is modern day, the layout this is for is one I'm building with my dad and is BR (S) 1959-63 so it had to be black. But the red ones do look exquisite!!!

Like you say the rigging, all in fishing line type material is magnificent and definitely a worthwhile model to have on Shed!!!,

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #724 on: March 28, 2020, 04:38:11 PM »
BREAKDOWN TRAIN - PART #2

Two updates in a day - there must be something going on in the World?   :o

Now that I have disassembled the Arnold crane and repaired the damage it is time to paint it.  Personally, I love the red crane livery although as I mentioned in my post to @exmouthcraig this is not the easy option!  I now have an even greater respect for our manufacturers and the wonderful livery/finishes they achieve.  Also, it must have been a pain for British Railways to move away from all over black.

The process of painting followed my standard process and the products used were:

* IPA to remove any original decals/paint.
* Tamiya Masking Tape.
* Humbrol Maskol.
* Halfords Grey Primer.
* Humbrol Acrylic Spray 220 Italian Red Gloss.
* Humbrol Acrylic Spray 33 Black Matt.
* Humbrol Acrylic Spray 34 White Matt.
* Testors Clear Coat Matt Varnish.

The following describes the steps for each part of the crane:

Match Truck Body

1. Cleaned in IPA.
2. Light coat of Halfords Grey Primer applied.
3. Interior of the body masked off.
4. Exterior of the body painted Italian Red.
5. Exterior of the body masked off.
6. Interior of the body painted Black.
7. Paint sealed with a coat of Testors Clear Coat.

Issues: Easier to have pained the inside edges and tops of the body in black.  I noticed that this is what Hornby do on their model and I suspect this is the reason why!


Photo 1. Painted Match Truck (the hole in the deck was like this prior to painting).

Jib Cradle

1. Cleaned in IPA.
2. Light coat of Halfords Grey Primer applied.
3. Painted Black.
4. Paint sealed with a coat of Testors Clear Coat.

Issues: None.


Photo 2. Painted Jib Cradle.

Crane Chassis

1. Cleaned in IPA.
2. Light coat of Halfords Grey Primer applied.
3. Pillar that holds the body on masked off.
4. Chassis top and underframe masked off.
5. Chassis side frames painted Italian Red.
6. Chassis side frame masked off.
7. Chassis top and underframe painted Black.
8. Buffers painted Black.
9. Paint sealed with a coat of Testors Clear Coat.

Issues: This was a complete nightmare as although the chassis looks easy to paint it is covered with nooks and crannies.  This makes masking very tricky and despite my best efforts some overspray occurred.  To rectify this, I applied the tin version of the red and black paint with a fine brush.  Halfords black paint covers well but their Italian Red Gloss is awful as his no covering ability no matter how many coats or density.  Again, another example of where all over black would have been so much easier.


Photo 3. Painted Crane Chassis.

Crane Body

1. Cleaned in IPA to remove factory decals.
2. Light coat of Halfords Grey Primer applied.
3. Whole body painted Italian Red.
4. Body sides inside and out were masked off.
5. Roof painted black.
6. Paint sealed with a coat of Testors Clear Coat.

Issues: As with the chassis the body is harder to mask and paint that it appears.  There are numerous complex curves to account for and this is where Humbrol Maskol proved a real help.  As mentioned in my previous post, the body has some damage and I am not totally happy with the finish on this part.


Photo 4. Painted Crane Body.

Crane Jib

1. Cleaned in IPA.
2. Light coat of Halfords Grey Primer applied.
3. Whole jib painted Italian Red.
4. Whole jib masked apart from the end.
5. Jib end painted White.
6. Paint sealed with a coat of Testors Clear Coat.

Issues: Painting the end of the jib white is fiddly and required extensive masking to ensure a clean line and minimal overspray.  There were a few places where red and white paint were missing on the inside and these were touched up by hand.


Photo 5. Painted Crane Jib.

The next step is to apply some information panels, wasp stripes etc. prior to reassembly.

Comments and suggestions are always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #725 on: March 28, 2020, 04:43:56 PM »
Thanks that's a pleasant tutorial. Will read later   but hope it inspires others

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #726 on: March 28, 2020, 07:53:49 PM »
Hi Paddy - an interesting project!

Reds are tricky, on models or indeed in real life. I'd have used Halfords red primer which would have helped the red top coat coverage. Also, putting red over white on the jib would have been easier than white over red.

Looking forward to seeing the finished product!

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #727 on: March 28, 2020, 09:10:42 PM »
Hi Mike ( @maridunian )

Thank you for your thoughts and I wish I had known this earlier - still, filed away for next time!

So you are saying I should have sprayed the jib white and then masked off the end before spraying the red?  I was surprised at how poorly the Humbrol white covered especially as it is labelled as white primer.

Although the Italian Red is a lovely colour, it too had very poor coverage when applied by brush.  Do you think this is because it was a gloss?

If I was doing this again then I would seriously consider the black livery.  :goggleeyes:

Kind regards

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #728 on: March 28, 2020, 09:19:21 PM »



DO IT PADDY  :D

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #729 on: March 28, 2020, 09:26:15 PM »
Hi Mike ( @maridunian )

So you are saying I should have sprayed the jib white and then masked off the end before spraying the red?


That would have been easier, but your red on white would look different to your red on grey, so after getting the white sorted, mask and prime like elsewhere.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #730 on: March 28, 2020, 09:47:05 PM »
Hi Mike ( @maridunian )

Just want to ensure I am understanding you.  So you recommend:

1. Grey prime jib.
2. Paint red.
3. Mask off jib apart from tip.
4. Grey primer tip of jib.
5. Paint tip white.

Have I got it?

 :)

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #731 on: March 28, 2020, 09:49:07 PM »
Hi @exmouthcraig

You are a bad influence - resistance is not futile.  ;)

Kind regards

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #732 on: March 28, 2020, 09:55:34 PM »
Hi Mike ( @maridunian )

Just want to ensure I am understanding you.  So you recommend:

1. Grey prime jib.
2. Paint red.
3. Mask off jib apart from tip.
4. Grey primer tip of jib.
5. Paint tip white.

Have I got it?

 :)

Many thanks

Paddy

Nope. WHITE primer for White paint, primer and paint the white without masking the jib.

Mask off white area of jib and then RED prime remainder of jib before Red paint.

So you'll need to buy White primer and Red primer thats like 12 Paddy, you've nearly bought a new crane  :smiley-laughing:

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #733 on: March 28, 2020, 11:45:51 PM »
 :laughabovepost:

What he said!

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #734 on: March 29, 2020, 10:00:20 AM »
Thanks @exmouthcraig and @maridunian

So much to learn.  My thinking behind painting it one colour overall was to try and avoid a ridge where the two paints join.  I did seem to manage that but at the expense of coverage and difficulty.

All good stuff though.

Kind regards

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