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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2115 on: April 10, 2019, 10:58:31 PM »
I have made a start on the wiring for the signals on the station board. This meant removing all stock and anything not fixed down so I could lay the section on its side. I have now started the wiring, I was forced to use different colours than what I wanted, no yellow for a start and the red cable I had was a bit too big. So I have used blk for negative which is stnd and then green/brown and blue only because I have reels of the stuff no point in wasting it. Forced to pack in my knees were beginning to hurt, but I have made some progress.

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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2116 on: April 11, 2019, 10:57:21 AM »
 :goggleeyes: Please expect a bill for the cleaning of my trousers

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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2117 on: April 11, 2019, 08:52:10 PM »
Sorry Mick @Newportnobby its getting a little congested under that board, and other members are suggesting light's too. I try to mark up all the wires,what everything does, for when I get older and have forgot myself.
I had a trip out today after sorting swmbo out first, she had a interview with OH. I went to a model shop that I know has a few bit's and pieces my local shop does not stock. The trouble was I forgot my glasses and picked up the wrong box, so I need to go back tomorrow now to exchange it. I also accidently picked up another Stanier brake coach in blood and custard, plus some trackside signs I liked. It was some connectors for the wiring so it has stopped some of the wiring I was going to do tonight to the control panel. I have some of those plug together terminal blocks but not enough, I did not fancy soldering this time to a 25 pin din plug. I have also started work on a Ratio round water tower which is going on the end of platform 1/2, so fun and games in-between the wiring.
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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2118 on: April 11, 2019, 11:09:36 PM »
Here is where I am up to with the signal wiring, 3 wires for each signal ie 3 aspect plus a common negative. I have checked each signal with a 9v battery to sort which wires are which. I just need to decide how to connect to the control panel, I do not fancy soldering this time. Here is my latest wiring pic, sorry Mick @Newportnobby if its giving you nightmares.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2019, 12:02:31 AM by lil chris »
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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2119 on: April 11, 2019, 11:52:38 PM »
Looks good to me, Chris  :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2120 on: April 13, 2019, 11:08:52 PM »
Latest Update: Tonight I have done more work on the signal control box. I have decided how to wire it and the format I am going to use for the panel. I have now sorted the fixing to the side of the layout, I needed it in position so I could make the cable the correct length, making the cable is the next job. Has usual something went wrong, the battery was flat on my drill so that delayed things, progress is being made that is what matters. I am looking forward to seeing the signals working, more fun of course.
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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2121 on: April 14, 2019, 09:28:03 PM »
I have now sorted the fixing to the side of the layout

Have you thought about using these, Chris? Makes it possible to just hook/unhook panels to the layout......

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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2122 on: April 14, 2019, 09:59:48 PM »
Thanks Mick @Newportnobby I have used the old way two screws on the side of the board, two holes with larger holes below, just slide them up to remove, cheap and easy.

More work tonight on the box, and now the front with rotary switches fitted.


And some may have noticed I have made the panel hinged for easy access
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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2123 on: April 14, 2019, 11:25:37 PM »
I love the retro sixties style pointy knobs!!

VOX amps and effects pedals use the same!  :thumbsup:
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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2124 on: April 17, 2019, 10:07:29 PM »
More work last night on the box and I made a wiring harness from the layout to the box. So in theory if I connect 12v to the choc bloc under the layout the signal lights should work. My light's from China have now arrived, the strange thing is another unit I ordered before the light's has still not arrived. I ordered two types some more modern image double ones and some early type with a curved top. Looking at some pics of my local station when it was upgraded in 1959 the modern image lamps are very similar, trouble was they replaced all the wooden  canopy's at the same time, so I have a bit of a dilemma, which do I use. The other problem is with my removable canopys, lights would probably have hung underneath the canopys. I think I will have to put some light posts under the canopy's. The other job I need to now do is cover the signal box panel with some clear plastic to protect the stickers I have put on it, I sure I must have some somewhere. Pics to follow.......
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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2125 on: April 17, 2019, 10:28:48 PM »
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I love the retro sixties style pointy knobs!!
AKA chicken head knobs

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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2126 on: April 17, 2019, 10:53:20 PM »
A few pics has promised, the signal panel needs covering yet, but you get the idea, keep it simple.
wiring loom first...

the panel....

and then my led lights from China, they come with resistors to cut the voltage I think  to 3v. I intend using some small boards to do the same thing from a 12v dc bus.


Just noticed looking at the pic, down 2 is platform 4, so a change needed. Its not really a branch line, its more of a slow line out of the station allowing a express for example to pass on platform 3.
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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2127 on: April 21, 2019, 10:44:32 PM »
I love this warm weather but the loft is warm tonight, about 84f, I am also watching the snooker. However I have still managed to make a start on the 12v bus and connected the Berko signals ready. I now need to wire the switches to the connector blocks in the signal control box, a bit of soldering is required.
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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2128 on: April 22, 2019, 11:05:54 PM »
After looking at the pic on one of my last post's  #2126 /no 2) I decided I was not happy with the control panel stickers. So tonight I have been re designing the panel, I have printed it out several times till I got it right. Well I thought it was right and laminated it ready and then realised I have not put the platform numbers against each signal control, not much use at all. So half a hour late after doing it again I now have a nice copy, it needs installing on the panel tomorrow. The hard part will be cutting the holes for the switches without ruining the print. Pics to follow.
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Re: East Lancashire lines
« Reply #2129 on: Yesterday at 12:04:05 PM »
If you glue it down to the panel then drill the holes for the switches from the front, and not too fast, won’t that make a clean cut through the laminated paper and the switch retaining nuts will cover up the hole edges?

 

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