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Author Topic: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series  (Read 51670 times)

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #105 on: February 03, 2017, 02:06:03 AM »
Look good, like the mk2. Just need to sort the decals!
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #106 on: February 03, 2017, 09:31:05 AM »
Nice models Gordon :thumbsup:, but not a route I would follow. :no:

I shall stick to r-t-r, at least until I have a lot more experience. :)
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #107 on: February 04, 2017, 12:42:31 AM »
My layout now scheduled to appear at Eurotrack in a couple of weeks, and in Continental Modeller.
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #108 on: February 05, 2017, 01:05:33 AM »
Time for a heads up:

Adding the latest announced models, by 2018, Kato will have issued a total of 16 different models (usual disclaimers apply!):

Ge4/4III - 8 versions
Allegra 3-car EMU - 2 versions (different running numbers)
Glacier Express 2006 design coaches - 2 versions
Bernina Express coaches
EWI (as just announced)
Ge4/4II (2 versions just announced)

8 versions of the Ge4/4III are/will have been available. In brackets in the list below are the date periods during which the locos ran in this livery on the RhB. Those who like time period realism on layouts  should note some of the dates carefully as some combinations will be unrealistic, for example Heidiland Bernina should not run with the Glacier Express coaches as the latter have only run since 2006. This may explain why it has sold less well than the Lazzarini issued at the same time. Also, most obviously the three 'duplicated' locos with the same number shouldn't really be operating at the same time.

641 Heidiland Bernina Express (1995-98)
641 Co-op (1999 - today) BUT the 'fruit and veg' picture  changed in that time
642 Albula / Ruinalta 100 (2003-08)
644 plain red (1994-95 and 2011-12)
644 Lazzarini yellow (2013 - today)
650 Die Kleine Rote (2000 - 2006)
650 Unesco (2007 - today)
651 Glacier on Tour (2005 - today)

As there are only 12 loks in the class, that's not bad!

Finally a couple of other things to note:

I have looked at the possibility of modifying the Allegra 3-car into the 4-car S-Bahn version, but although at first glance it might seem easy, the window/door etc arrangements would require quite a few quite complex modifications.

The new universal driving trailers are very similar to an Allegra coach so Kato may well choose to do one, similarly the AGZ.






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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #109 on: February 05, 2017, 07:03:37 PM »
Thanks, a nice summary Gordon, but you inadvertently missed one current Kato model:

650 Die Kleine Rote -  I see from online photos that 650 'Seewis im Prättigau" in carried the Die Kleine Rote livery in 2003-2005, though perhaps you can enlighten on the full date range for this livery.
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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #110 on: February 07, 2017, 01:03:08 AM »
Thanks, a nice summary Gordon, but you inadvertently missed one current Kato model:

650 Die Kleine Rote -  I see from online photos that 650 'Seewis im Prättigau" in carried the Die Kleine Rote livery in 2003-2005, though perhaps you can enlighten on the full date range for this livery.

Realised too late that I'd missed that one - just proves the point as to how expansive the range is getting, although the time spans for duplicated numbers is a problem for time-realistic layouts.

The other problem is that I (and my mate also) started working with this Kato GEX stuff as a 'new modelling challenge'. Now that so much is going to be available off the shelf the 'modelling' aspect is diluted for some poeples' tastes.



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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #111 on: February 07, 2017, 07:23:57 AM »
Reeeeally?

I'm sure there's enough you can do to maintain "modeller" status - you've complained on here that Kato aren't doing the liveries "we need", so you can't now complain that it's becoming too easy.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #112 on: February 18, 2017, 10:09:25 PM »
Hi

I am new to the forum, but have been a railway modeller for some forty years. Now currently modelling N gauge, a couple of years ago I started following the RhB in N. I used to model it in HOm but it got too expensive. I model it in Nm which is not as difficult as you think. I have modified seven GE 4/4 IIIs, two Allegras and various coaches. I have also done a Shapeways ABe 4/4 III railcar using the Tomix chassis as recommended but with wheels from a Kato Allegra re-gauged to Nm - no problem with the gear meshing. I also buy various items from AB Modell. Michael is very helpful, he does supply decals for coaches and also supplied decals for my ABe 4/4 III railcar. Just email him, he accepts PayPal and usually I get the items within 3 or 4 days. Hopefully I will post some photos in the coming weeks.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #113 on: February 18, 2017, 10:22:14 PM »
I'd be very interested to see these as it's something I've thought of doing myself, modelling the RhB in Nm :thumbsup:


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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #114 on: February 19, 2017, 01:46:48 AM »
Yep, I'd also be interesting to see that, as the gauge inaccuracies annoy me on the Kato stuff.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #115 on: February 19, 2017, 07:58:24 AM »
Here's a link to a site that shows you how to convert N to Nm on both the Kato GE4/4 and Allegr.
 http://www.rhb-nm.ch/tips-tricks/kato-glacier-express/umspuren/
Its not a difficult as you think, you just have a lot of filing to do along with some careful shaving with a sharp knife.

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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #116 on: February 19, 2017, 09:45:04 PM »
Here are some photos of my Kato GE 4/4 IIIs. All have been fitted with Micro Trains Z scale couplers  and AB Modell etched handrails a little detail that makes all the difference. They are easy to fit as you can get a drilling jig to drill the holes in exactly the right places. Locos are displayed on Rokuhan Z track.


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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #117 on: February 19, 2017, 09:46:39 PM »
Here is 641


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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #118 on: February 19, 2017, 10:09:28 PM »
Here is 646. Decals are by AB Modell. To change the number, carefully rub the old number and name with Brasso metal polish wadding. It will remove them quite easy but be careful not to rub too hard or too big an area, you do not want to remove any of the silver lower body line. After applying the new decals, seal the model with varnish, I use Humbrol satin varnish from an aerosol.


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Re: Kato Rhaetische Bahn series
« Reply #119 on: February 19, 2017, 10:12:42 PM »
Here is a head on view of 646 showing how much better the Z scale track looks.


 

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