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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #435 on: February 20, 2019, 06:38:07 PM »
Paging Dr Al!

i just recieved the old graham farish large prairie tank, which im going to get a new body for, get glossed etc...

any thoughts on how to upgrade the wheel sets and what to? not sure what would look best!

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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #436 on: February 20, 2019, 06:43:47 PM »
Paging Dr Al!

i just recieved the old graham farish large prairie tank, which im going to get a new body for, get glossed etc...

any thoughts on how to upgrade the wheel sets and what to? not sure what would look best!

I wouldn't upgrade a silver wheeled model, I'd just obtain a Bachmann version with blackened RP25 wheels and stick with those.

Cheers,
Alan
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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #437 on: February 20, 2019, 06:45:25 PM »
Paging Dr Al!

i just recieved the old graham farish large prairie tank, which im going to get a new body for, get glossed etc...

any thoughts on how to upgrade the wheel sets and what to? not sure what would look best!

I wouldn't upgrade a silver wheeled model, I'd just obtain a Bachmann version with blackened RP25 wheels and stick with those.

Cheers,
Alan

unfortunatly there isnt a new version from iv seen! theres the small prairie by dapol but large prairie no :(
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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #438 on: February 20, 2019, 06:48:31 PM »
[unfortunatly there isnt a new version from iv seen! theres the small prairie by dapol but large prairie no :(

New, as in Bachmann production of the Poole design:



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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #439 on: February 20, 2019, 06:50:46 PM »
[unfortunatly there isnt a new version from iv seen! theres the small prairie by dapol but large prairie no :(

New, as in Bachmann production of the Poole design:



Cheers,
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ohhh! didnt realise they did that! dayum gonna have to look for that one then!
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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #440 on: February 20, 2019, 10:06:54 PM »
A few more steps made - the B12 tender has advanced considerably. Painted, and now decalled out to match prototype pictures.

Now that will remain until the loco catches up before final finishing and coating is done so all match.





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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #441 on: February 20, 2019, 11:03:25 PM »
A few more steps made - the B12 tender has advanced considerably. Painted, and now decalled out to match prototype pictures.

Now that will remain until the loco catches up before final finishing and coating is done so all match.





Cheers,
Alan

Its looking brilliant :)

One quick question, how easy is it to shorten the wire between the tender and loco on a Union Mills loco?

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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #442 on: February 20, 2019, 11:05:41 PM »
One quick question, how easy is it to shorten the wire between the tender and loco on a Union Mills loco?

Pretty trivial - just unscrew it on loco, cut it down and re-insert. I tend to tin it with solder for longevity as well.

Cheers,
Alan
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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #443 on: February 20, 2019, 11:07:24 PM »
One quick question, how easy is it to shorten the wire between the tender and loco on a Union Mills loco?

Pretty trivial - just unscrew it on loco, cut it down and re-insert. I tend to tin it with solder for longevity as well.

Cheers,
Alan

Brilliant thanks for the quick reply, I have a 3F heading my way which I hope is delivered tomorrow when the DO is out.

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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #444 on: February 20, 2019, 11:16:59 PM »
One quick question, how easy is it to shorten the wire between the tender and loco on a Union Mills loco?

Pretty trivial - just unscrew it on loco, cut it down and re-insert. I tend to tin it with solder for longevity as well.

Cheers,
Alan

Brilliant thanks for the quick reply, I have a 3F heading my way which I hope is delivered tomorrow when the DO is out.

Most wonderful, Paul and congratulations!  The Union Mills '3F' is a little beauty.  LMS livery I trust (or S&D)?  A MR one would be nice, though...



Alan, the 'B12/3' is looking splendid.

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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #445 on: February 21, 2019, 07:27:15 PM »
Look forward to seeing the B12 completed - that tender is gorgeous!

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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #446 on: March 05, 2019, 09:46:14 PM »
After a little bit of down time and other goings on, the B12 has been pushed towards completion.

After first primer coat, some cleaning up has been done followed by the final detailing. This comprised mainly adding of various thin pipes at the front end, as well as replacement of the Westinghouse pump with a separate and appropriate details.

The body is now done - there are a few pipes left off, specifically those running along the footplate - it's just not amenable to get these on as the footplate lip is smaller than the real thing, so any pipework would protrude too much.









Next will be final once over and clean up, final primer coat followed by black.

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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #447 on: March 06, 2019, 10:19:02 AM »
It's looking really good Al. I updated mine probably over 10 years ago using a BHE GER tender body and a modified continental tender drive. I may have to revisit it.

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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #448 on: March 06, 2019, 02:56:43 PM »
Alan, the 'B12/3' just gets better and better!

Many thanks for these inspirational posts.

Best wishes.

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Re: Dr Al's workbench - B12/3
« Reply #449 on: March 08, 2019, 10:38:10 PM »
You can have it in any colour you like, so long as it's (BR) black....



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Alan
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