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Poll

I would probably buy a first generation EMU if it were made available by RevolutioN

AM4/304 type only (inc 305 etc)
4 (12.1%)
AM10/310 type only (inc 312)
7 (21.2%)
Either 304 type or 310 type
6 (18.2%)
I wouldn't want a 304/310 type but would buy another first gen EMU (e.g. 303)
4 (12.1%)
I would probably buy two of the above selection
8 (24.2%)
I would probably buy three or more of the above selection
4 (12.1%)

Total Members Voted: 25

Voting closed: March 09, 2015, 06:30:11 PM

Author Topic: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?  (Read 9915 times)

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2015, 05:27:23 PM »
Of course, I'd forgotten about the original plain blue! It looked very stylish when clean with chrome arrows and window frames. Those curved windows are another difference, being modified over time to a plain windscreen.

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2015, 05:35:40 PM »
Hi Gang,

Don't suppose Id get much support for a 303/311....

Liveries...
Caledonian (Electric) blue
BR blue,
Blue/grey
Strathclyde Red (orange)
SPTE
GMPTE
NSE

Might be the 3d print route for this one......

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2015, 06:27:01 PM »
With my prime Scottish interests, please don't tempt me Stu!!  I am a long way from being broke but there is a limit to how much SWMBO would not notice!

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2015, 01:20:28 AM »
I would love a 303 or 311 travelled on them for years when I worked in Hillington 1975 o 1990

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2015, 11:30:34 AM »
Scottish Region's "pet" unit 303 048 in original blue visited Brighton for an open day in 1991

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2015, 12:22:36 PM »
I would be interested in several of any of the above and while I would selfishly prefer a fleet of 304's, from a successful project point of view I would suggest a 305 due to their later moves from the south east to the Manchester and Edinburgh areas, thereby broadening the appeal.

Being realistic about cost, I have a little matrix to estimate rates based on current new model retail prices:

1) powered car - like a new loco - £100
2) trailer vehicle - like a coach - £20
3) driving trailer - extra detail like a DVT or dummy loco - say £35

On this basis I don't think it would be unreasonable to pay a minimum of £175 for a four car 305 or 310 type unit.


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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2015, 12:57:52 PM »
Well not going to lie I thought that something like the 30x series would be more limited but there seems to be a fair bit of interest.

Postmod can you set up a poll? Would help build a case for an AM1 to see if its a feasible project

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2015, 06:34:36 PM »
Well not going to lie I thought that something like the 30x series would be more limited but there seems to be a fair bit of interest.

Postmod can you set up a poll? Would help build a case for an AM1 to see if its a feasible project

Hi Acko,

Yep - put up a poll.  I have skewed it to consider 304/310 first as that seems to be the main thrust, but a section for other choices -

Hope this allows people to express themselves - if it doesn't give you exactly the option that expresses your wishes (all) indicate the closest to your opinion and clarify in a post.

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2015, 08:30:30 PM »
Both 304 and 310 gets my vote, multiple of each. Dapol would also get some 86 sales from me out of it too.
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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2015, 10:49:47 PM »
Thanks for putting up the poll Jon. X2 310s for me! Better get my Dapol 86 ready for spraying banger blue!

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2015, 10:59:57 PM »
Thanks for putting up the poll Jon. X2 310s for me! Better get my Dapol 86 ready for spraying banger blue!

It's all heading WCML Neal!   Cheers  Jon  :)
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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2015, 11:00:25 PM »
Hi all, I would definenatley   be interested in any of the above.   I remember the 308s  in West Yorkshire.
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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2015, 09:45:22 AM »
An update on question 3 (can we get drawings or laser scan?) the answer to this seems to be a strong "yes" (to the measuring/laser scanning for the 310/312 option).

I have contacted Ian Brown, the Chairman of the Electric Railway Museum and got the following response:

Yes the ERM has two Class 312 vehicles owned by one of our members. I am sure we will be pleased to facilitate you measuring the vehicles etc.

In fact, I hope I haven't set a hare running too early!  Anyway I will follow up, and see if there is an opportunity for me to go and look at/photograph the vehicles over the next few months, just to check the lie of the land and build some relationships.

Cheers Jon  :)
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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2015, 04:27:14 PM »
That's good news Jon! Do you need someone to hold the other end of the tape measure? Is the Electric Railway Museum near Coventry?

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - a first gen overhead EMU?
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2015, 04:59:55 PM »
That would be great!

I was going to suggest a trip up when they open, which I'm guessing is around Easter.  I say guessing because the website wasn't working yesterday!

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