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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2015, 10:47:56 AM »
377140 - 164 have the later-style light clusters.

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2015, 11:06:18 AM »
Ok just noticed the comment mike said last night which seemed a little teasing when I reread it.

Not Ben you have turned up on her with Mike asking questions about the designs!
Ypu pair aren't looking at your next project already are you? I mean it has been less than 24hours since the kickstart fro the Pendolino project has closed and you are still working with the Plan B side of life on that!

If you are well fair play to both of you, all I can say is you pair must either not like to take a break or glutens for punishment!

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2015, 11:32:55 AM »

Hi Acko,

This thread interests me anyway, but I am keen to see if there is a consensus. 

One problem already identified with Electrostars seems to be that people only want the *exact* right one. - even if the differences are as trivial as light cluster sizes....

Of course, if I am wrong then great !

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2015, 11:38:18 AM »
Well its always the clusters that are an issue!

Honest answer for me is I have little idea they are technically the wrong end of the country for me!
Been a northern lad the new trains we get are generally 20+ years old!

Would be interesting to see what comes though, especially if you and Mike went for round 2!

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2015, 12:31:19 PM »
From an external point of view (excluding liveries) you are looking at about 100 Southern and about 60 South Eastern units being more or less identical externally; including the light cluster design (more detailed research may throw up some minor differences).

On top of this, you have the 38 dual-voltage 377/2 and 377/5 units which I believe are identical to the 100 or so 'standard' Southern units, save for the pantograph. That is a base of nearly 200 units covering Dover and Margate to Southampton and Eastleigh, via Bedford and Milton Keynes.

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2015, 12:54:23 PM »
Which classes have camera pods? 

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2015, 01:28:49 PM »
Which classes have camera pods?

 I'm guessing you are referring to the cameras on the side of the units; checking doors and the pltforms etc from the train. I believe these are standard for the Southern units, but I'm sure someone more intimately aquainted with their operation could confirm this.

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2015, 02:26:18 PM »
One problem already identified with Electrostars seems to be that people only want the *exact* right one. - even if the differences are as trivial as light cluster sizes....

I wouldn't mind - if it looks like an Electrostar and has the right livery I would be happy!

...but that's just me..!

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2015, 02:33:22 PM »
I'd certainly buy 2 models.....as long as they're in Southern livery then that's perfect.  :)

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2015, 02:36:13 PM »
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I was about to say I would love one in First Livery, my layout is northwest themed so they don't appear up my end of the sticks but First do transpennine So I could get away with it!
But got to be realistic its about what model will sell best if people are wanting it!

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2015, 02:38:40 PM »
Although slightly out of date (2012) livery and set length wise, for someone a bit weak on detailed Electrostar knowledge I found the Modern Locomotives Limited No. 194 "The Electrostar family -Classes 357, 375-379" provides a good grounding.

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2015, 05:21:10 PM »
I would be up for one.  I'll take a 375/8, SouthEastern livery.  There will have to be engineering works that day, reroute through Dartford...

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2015, 06:11:25 PM »
I will buy these in Southern and South Eastern and I believe that some Electrostars will to be transferred to the Great Western and Midland Lines upon electrification therefore providing more opportunities for liveries and usage.

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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2015, 08:45:10 PM »
I will buy these in Southern and South Eastern and I believe that some Electrostars will to be transferred to the Great Western and Midland Lines upon electrification therefore providing more opportunities for liveries and usage.


Nothing confirmed yet, but if it does happen it will probably be the latest versions with the separate windows.  Another reason to go for that insert! 

And don't forget the version for the expats....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautrain

Yes the ends are different but the sides are the same. 
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Re: Electrostars
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2015, 07:38:29 AM »
I believe the plan is for the new 378s to go to Great Western upon delivery of the Class 700 Thameslink units from Siemens - the other Electrostars in use with Thameslink are likely to go back to Southern duties.

The cascade policy is very fluid and could well change but with new IEPs and Thameslnk trains on the way, the shape of the railway will change immensely.
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