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Author Topic: "UP TO PARIS"...."DOWN FROM PARIS" AND DRIVING SIDE OF TRACKS.  (Read 761 times)

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"UP TO PARIS"...."DOWN FROM PARIS" AND DRIVING SIDE OF TRACKS.
« on: January 11, 2015, 12:43:16 PM »
Do the French follow the British practice(and others) of referring to lines on which the direction of travel is towards the Capital(in this case Paris) as the "UP" line and lines on which the direction of travel is away from the Capital as the "DOWN" line as a general rule( as per British practice etc.with some exceptions)?
If so do the French "drive" on the correct side of the tracks,as it were,i.e.the LEFT hand line as the DOWN line when departing from a Paris Terminal and on the RIGHT hand line as the UP line when heading in the direction of Paris or a Paris Terminal(......or do they as with cars drive on the "wrong" side of the road i.e. the left thus reversing the British practice (with some exceptions)?
Looking the matter up on the "net" doesn't assist and/or watching videos of French railways just seems to confuse the matter as no general rule seems to apply yet there MUST be a general rule or chaos etc. would result!
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Re: "UP TO PARIS"...."DOWN FROM PARIS" AND DRIVING SIDE OF TRACKS.
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2015, 12:54:09 PM »
French main line railways generally run on the left, probably because the earliest ones were built by British engineers.  An exception is those parts of eastern France that were part of Germany at various times.  The German railways converted them to run on the right and they still do. 

Paris Metro and all the tram lines run on the right. 

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Re: "UP TO PARIS"...."DOWN FROM PARIS" AND DRIVING SIDE OF TRACKS.
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2015, 01:21:01 PM »
The 'up' and 'down' naming of directions is a British (or British influenced colonies) thing... I''ve not heard it in general use in mainland Europe...

France historically probably has the most mixed handed running. In the north with British influence left hand was the norm, in the east with a germanic or Italian influence right hand was more common! the current SNCF standard is left hand, and all the high speed lines are left hand running, but some lines that were traditionally right hand continue to be...

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Re: "UP TO PARIS"...."DOWN FROM PARIS" AND DRIVING SIDE OF TRACKS.
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2015, 01:34:26 PM »
Many thanks,no wonder i couldn't find an answer on the net or on videos of French railways.
Things concisely explained,thank you gents.
Les.

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Re: "UP TO PARIS"...."DOWN FROM PARIS" AND DRIVING SIDE OF TRACKS.
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2015, 06:24:50 PM »
The French use "voie impaire" for down and "voie paire" for the up line. As in the Uk the terms apply to the origin of the line so cover not just to/from Paris.

http://trains.wikia.com/wiki/Impair
« Last Edit: January 11, 2015, 06:27:38 PM by woodbury22uk, Reason: French spelling corrected »
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Re: "UP TO PARIS"...."DOWN FROM PARIS" AND DRIVING SIDE OF TRACKS.
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2015, 09:24:34 PM »
Thanks for that also the link to trainswiki which I have saved.
Les
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Re: "UP TO PARIS"...."DOWN FROM PARIS" AND DRIVING SIDE OF TRACKS.
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2015, 12:40:11 AM »
Hi,

I thought all french trains drove on the left but haven't been to all of it. Must get out more!  :)

Found this to confirm earlier answers....

http://sinfin.net/railways/world/france.html

Must look into it further although I model North West and Southern France so think I'm Ok.

Good question though,

Cheers weave



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Re: "UP TO PARIS"...."DOWN FROM PARIS" AND DRIVING SIDE OF TRACKS.
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2015, 09:34:48 AM »
The 'up' and 'down' naming of directions is a British (or British influenced colonies) thing... I''ve not heard it in general use in mainland Europe...

France historically probably has the most mixed handed running. In the north with British influence left hand was the norm, in the east with a germanic or Italian influence right hand was more common! the current SNCF standard is left hand, and all the high speed lines are left hand running, but some lines that were traditionally right hand continue to be...

..in Italy we have left hand for trains, on the contrary of our car traffic..
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Re: "UP TO PARIS"...."DOWN FROM PARIS" AND DRIVING SIDE OF TRACKS.
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2015, 10:31:14 AM »
FWIW Japan (both trains and cars on the left) has the concept of up/down lines (also for motorways).
Takahachikawa - Japanese and other trains

Birmingham Knotmore Street - (ex) GWR mainline through the Midlands

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Re: "UP TO PARIS"...."DOWN FROM PARIS" AND DRIVING SIDE OF TRACKS.
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2015, 04:06:47 PM »
Thanks to weave,marco and railsquid for additional information on up/down and side of travel information.

Les
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