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Author Topic: WARNING NeXT18 AHEAD!!!!! Or 'be careful what you wish for'  (Read 1544 times)

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Re: WARNING NeXT18 AHEAD!!!!! Or 'be careful what you wish for'
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2019, 09:47:57 AM »
Thanks for the post,following it for when i got to DCC one day

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Re: WARNING NeXT18 AHEAD!!!!! Or 'be careful what you wish for'
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2019, 09:58:32 AM »
Thanks for the post,following it for when i got to DCC one day

Craig

Don't let it put you off tho Craig,   this is just a change in a model design that we are working around - and I'm told a different 6 function decoder will fix it anyway (the Zimo one I used are 4 function).   DCC really is not this complicated. Honest !

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Re: WARNING NeXT18 AHEAD!!!!! Or 'be careful what you wish for'
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2019, 12:52:02 PM »
Haven't chipped my Dapol 50 yet but I've got two Farish 40's with Next 18 sockets and the decoder's just plugged in and worked without any tinkering at all.

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Re: WARNING NeXT18 AHEAD!!!!! Or 'be careful what you wish for'
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2019, 02:34:57 PM »
the Next18 chip/socket combination is more reliable ( and is polarised - ie only one way to fit it) than the classic 6 pin socket/chip - these are very variable in quality and fit and loose chips are a continual source of problems.

the next 18 sockets can also be fitted on automated production lines, so costs and reliability improved++.

if you want to play, here are some breakout boards for potential chip engineers!

Something like this on Ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=next18+socket&_sacat=0

Or one from D&H

 http://doehler-haass.de/cms/pages/produkte/soundsystem/anschlussadapter.php

 
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Re: WARNING NeXT18 AHEAD!!!!! Or 'be careful what you wish for'
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2019, 02:45:03 PM »
Haven't chipped my Dapol 50 yet but I've got two Farish 40's with Next 18 sockets and the decoder's just plugged in and worked without any tinkering at all.

I haven't had to chip a Farish Next18 loco yet, just Dapol.
When you say worked without tinkering, can you control the front and rear lights independently?

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Re: WARNING NeXT18 AHEAD!!!!! Or 'be careful what you wish for'
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2019, 03:11:20 PM »
The headlights come on the direction of forward travel still but the tail lights are switchable and the cab lights work in the the leading cab.

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Re: WARNING NeXT18 AHEAD!!!!! Or 'be careful what you wish for'
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2019, 04:15:30 PM »
The current ESU 53900 Decoder tester has a Next18 socket along with NEM651 (6 pin), NEM652 (8 pin), PluX22, 21MTX and screw terminals.

At 40 it's a bit pricey but worthy as a club purchase. Sadly I bought mine before they added the Next18 socket so I use a adaptor/break-out board as per Railwaygun's suggestions.

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