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N gauge Pendolino

Yes I'd invest in a crowd sourcing venture for a 9 car N gauge Pendolino
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Author Topic: Pendolino - a new approach  (Read 289543 times)

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2100 on: March 18, 2018, 09:57:47 PM »
Wow, not wasting any time!

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2101 on: March 18, 2018, 10:04:09 PM »
and a £230 markup. 

That's nearly a 12% per anum compound interest return.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2102 on: March 18, 2018, 10:04:37 PM »
Blimey - someone has taken a bit of a gamble listing something they don't even have in their possession yet.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2103 on: March 18, 2018, 10:25:57 PM »
Blimey - someone has taken a bit of a gamble listing something they don't even have in their possession yet.

I'm not even sure eBay rules allow that...


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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2104 on: March 18, 2018, 10:27:49 PM »
If you specify and stick to an availability date they seem to let it go.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2105 on: March 18, 2018, 10:33:09 PM »
It is people's prerogative to try and get as good a price as they want for their Pendolino.  We were very clear that if other people took the risk that helped make the project happen then fair play to them - it is their money and choice and they were not depriving anyone else from purchasing one at our prices.

I try to keep an eye on the re-sale value of our products - partly vanity / pride(!) and partly it is interesting to see if it reflects further demand.

Cheers, Mike

PS the seller is of course assuming that we will be efficient enough to get them all our in one weekend!



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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2106 on: March 18, 2018, 10:53:18 PM »
.........it is interesting to see if it reflects further demand.........


Well whoever buys it will want another if it falls on the floor and smashes to smitherines.
running in is so you get used to the noise, oops, to bed the gears down properly

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2107 on: March 19, 2018, 07:05:07 AM »
What a curious comment. Doesnít that hold true for anyone if theyíre sufficiently clumsy?

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2108 on: March 19, 2018, 08:49:12 AM »
Well whoever buys it will want another if it falls on the floor and smashes to smitherines.

If it's in the box it should have some protection!   

And if it's out of the box you'd need to be trying really hard to drop and entire 11-car train onto the floor in one go!

Actually, we have noticed when running the models on our display stand, that individual derailments rarely result in a "serious" accident as the car is kept in line by those either side - much like the real railway where couplers are designed not to separate in the event of a crash.

Cheers

Ben A.



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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2109 on: March 19, 2018, 12:27:45 PM »
Well whoever buys it will want another if it falls on the floor and smashes to smitherines.

If it's in the box it should have some protection!   

And if it's out of the box you'd need to be trying really hard to drop and entire 11-car train onto the floor in one go!

Actually, we have noticed when running the models on our display stand, that individual derailments rarely result in a "serious" accident as the car is kept in line by those either side - much like the real railway where couplers are designed not to separate in the event of a crash.

Cheers

Ben A.

apologies, I did not intend to suggest the thing ustable or badly packaged.

I was implying that someone who pays the ebay price might be a collector buying an investment rather than someone who wants the thing to play trains with. That collector is banking on the things rarity, They would only want to buy another in the rarest of circumstances.

And it would be a very rare thing for a collector to have it out of its box.

it was meant in a light hearted spirit- i mean that genuinely- I too would be quite proud - and indeed have been when thengs I have made have gone up in price. And you bothered to make it and the thing looks superb. And you got it done at the right price in my opinion. You are offering a lot of good train for the money. I don't think YOU are greedy!

On the one hand, you are correct that once bought anyone can do anything with their trains- including putting them up for ebay at 150% markup, and it is nobody's business other than those who made the investment.

On the other hand it is quite valid within critical society to discuss cause and effect of the workings of a particular market, because anything that lowers or raises the price of things that almost everyone here keeps an eye on, is of interest.
running in is so you get used to the noise, oops, to bed the gears down properly

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2110 on: March 19, 2018, 01:00:22 PM »
I'd quite like to snap up one of the few which Ben and Mike may well have to sell, purely for personal gain! I'm interested to see how it sells. I'd probably also go with an auction, as I wouldn't be wholly surprised to see the market going further than £600, particularly given the (rightly deserved) popularity of the TEAs, which I'd suggest are a less 'exciting' model, as much as I like mine!

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2111 on: March 19, 2018, 01:56:34 PM »
Glad to hear they are almost arriving at their ultimate destinations, Mike and Ben you guys have something to be very proud of, and as buyer we will be forever grateful, without your vision and the projects backers and supporters this would never have left the starting blocks, so one thing to say.....

THANK YOU.

Ps, sell the spares you have on eBay at inflated prices to fund the 320/321s (purely joking of course)
Support crowdfunding - itís the way forward

Revolutions class 321 needs your help, letís make it happen.

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2112 on: March 19, 2018, 02:11:16 PM »
I personally would have no issues at all if Ben and Mike wished to sell any excess stock at whatever price they deemed reasonable. Fair market economics and that!

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2113 on: March 19, 2018, 02:53:19 PM »
Methinks 2018 will be a good (and expensive) year for me with the Pendolino tantalisingly close, the class B tanks not too far off, and a Dr Al class 4MT in the offing.
Yeehah :claphappy:

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Re: Pendolino - a new approach
« Reply #2114 on: March 19, 2018, 03:01:24 PM »
I personally would have no issues at all if Ben and Mike wished to sell any excess stock at whatever price they deemed reasonable. Fair market economics and that!

How about a 30 day silent auction with a minimum price for the extra units set at the original sale price.  With the excess profit going towards making less well supported projects happen.


So if there are 20 units the 20 highest bids win, and so on.

 

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