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European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« on: July 04, 2014, 12:06:46 AM »
Hello All, can anybody please help me I have a big oval of Kato Unitram track. and would like an articulated european tram the Duewag type, does any one know with it having 3 bogies if it will run on the Unitram curves? I am more or less house bound so can't get to dealers :thumbsup:

Many Thanks,

if they do - does anyone have any good condition used ones for sale  :thumbsup: 
« Last Edit: July 04, 2014, 08:14:42 AM by Pengi, Reason: typo »
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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2014, 04:22:02 PM »
I have the Arnold Duewag Gelenktriebwagens, HN 2110 Bochum 'Jagermeister' and HN2111 Dusseldorf 'Persil',  and I run both these articulated trams on my Kato Unitram layout with Unitram Street Track Curves and Electric Turnouts without any problems.

My layout is under construction as illustrated:

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I don't have any photographs of the articulated trams running on the layout at present.

Best wishes,

Alex
« Last Edit: July 04, 2014, 04:23:10 PM by ajc, Reason: typing error »

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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2014, 04:35:38 PM »
Hi ajc,
I think wheelchairman is talking about this tram articulated Duewag three bogies
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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2014, 08:41:52 PM »
Thank you for help But yes it is the articulated Duewag three bogies as shown in the photo,  :thumbsup:
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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2014, 09:28:27 PM »
That 3-bogied tram is not widely advertised by the usual dealers, does anyone sell them in the UK ?
If so a call to the dealer might help.  I have a feeling it could probably run on a big oval assuming
the central bogie allows the body on either side to pivot as most trams can handle tight curves..
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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2014, 10:37:56 PM »
Hornby now run Arnold -ask them?
Gauge master and Train Trax stock the kato tram track -ditto

Or dm-toys.de speak excellent English and have it in stock

http://www.en.dm-toys.de/produktdetails/items/HN2112.html

As do kernow models in uk

There is also a thread + videos here
http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/7028-arnold-hn-2100-duewag-gt6-articulated-tram/

Could you compare the Tomix and kato track radii?

And. A manual here ( without minimum track radius!)
http://www.hornbyinternational.com/folletos/arnold/HN2112.pdf
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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2014, 12:05:26 AM »
Yes these Arnold trams are the three bogie Duewag articulated models:

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I bought mine from Arcadia Models in Shaw as I was in Manchester doing the Metrolink extension through Oldham town centre before travelling on to Shaw and Crompton.  www.arcadiarail.co.uk

Kernow Model Rail Centre in Camborne also sell them  www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com

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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2014, 12:59:39 AM »
Dear Everyone who replied, I really appreciate all the help you've given me, especially the chap with all the links, I am having trouble replying to single posts, so hit reply at end of last post, so I've sent thanks to people, Kernow will not commit themselves, many others won't either, so I'll work out radius of curves and get back, it is that middle bogie, that looks just too close, but tried a Bachmann Peter Witt streetcar, and it ran like a good 'un - I'll let you know how Iget on

Again Thanks  :thankyousign:
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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2014, 12:20:23 PM »
Here are photographs of the Arnold Duewag articulated trams with three bogies running on my Kato Unitram layout.

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They are running on Kato Unitram 40-101 and 40-102 Street Track Curves R180mm Left and Right and Kato Unitram 40-210 and 40-211 Street Track Electric Turnouts R180mm Left and Right.

I took a pair of Kato Unitram Street Track Left and Right Curves with me to Acadia Models to try the Arnold Duewag Articulated trams on the curved track before I bought them as I had heard about problems with the earlier version negotiating curves on Tramway & Light Railway Society website.
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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2014, 02:56:11 PM »
Dear ajc, many thanks for photos - I can now go ahead and get one for my birthday!  :bounce:

your help much appreciated,

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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2014, 05:24:00 PM »
rails have one on ebay used at 99 loks in good condition

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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2014, 10:48:40 PM »
Dear Eddie, many thanks - had a look and you're right it doesn't look bad, Kernow have it for 112 brand new On web site, so will let you know when I see tomorrow  ;)

Thanks A Lot  :)
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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2014, 07:37:14 PM »
Useful information, means I can look out for a Duewag car for Furtwangen ost.-

I use Tomix track for the tramway on Furtwangen Ost- the earlier type with the separate insert.  I have no problems (as one might expect) with Tomix trams, and very few problems with Modemo.   Other makes do not like the ends of the layout, as they seem to get to the limit of their turn, and Kato won't run anywhere out front.....

However, following the layout taking a heavy bash getting it into the car at the end of the Great Central show (which part demolished the old gateway) I've bitten the bullet and ordered enough of the new-type Tomix curves with the track set into the street.  Hopefully this will give my (expensive) Linea8 Combinos a better chance of lasting a full exhibition.

Work shoud be finished in time for RMWeb Live in September, so we'll see what happens.   In the meantime I've added a Tomix "room and bath" three section car, which runs extremely well.

All the very best
Les



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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2014, 01:32:26 PM »
Dear AJC, got the Arnold tram this morning, from Arcadia, runs  slower than others, do I need to oil it a touch, or just let it run in
Thanks for help  :claphappy:
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Re: European articulated trams + Kato Unitram Track
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2014, 01:50:10 PM »
Dear Les1952, sorry to hear of damage to your layout, I got Kato as it seemed the easiest way to go - rather than infilling between track, it was only later I heard of Tomix. Good luck on the rebuild  ;)
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