Bachmann hike price's by 20%

[Chris in Prague]

I have pre-ordered a Graham Farish 'N' from that well-known Liverpool-based emporium in the expectation of being able to buy it at the existing price. I'd like more than one but at well over a £100 each, one will have to do. I can diagram Graham Farish Bulleid Light Pacifics and, for later years, Graham Farish BR Standard 2-6-4Ts, (all well under £100 secondhand, even including service / repair at BRlines) instead.

I was tempted by a 64XX but, despite the reasonable price still showing for pre-orders, really cannot justify one, except as a 'preserved' loco. at Bodmin GWS, so will wait.

[Roy L S]

I think that until it is confirmed that the source of the 2014 prices shown by Antics was indeed Bachmann I will take the 20% across the piece price hike they are currently showing here with a proverbial "pinch of salt".

Roy

[Newportnobby]

Before we all  ourselves it might be worth looking at the discounts being offered.
As an example, the Warship has had a 20% increase to take it to £127.26 but the saving being offered is £47.72 which equals 37.5%

[Roy L S]

Before we all  ourselves it might be worth looking at the discounts being offered.
As an example, the Warship has had a 20% increase to take it to £127.26 but the saving being offered is £47.72 which equals 37.5%

Exactly but that's against an as yet unconfirmed (and at odds with Bachmann's website currently) arbitrary 20% price rise across the piece and it therefore makes the discounts look especially good.

It also suggests an abandonment of the imposed 15% max initial dealer discount which I have not seen mentioned anywhere else.

Roy

[red_death]

It also suggests an abandonment of the imposed 15% max initial dealer discount which I have not seen mentioned anywhere else.

Roy

The max 15% discount is only for a limited period of time - 8 (or 12?) weeks IIRC.

Cheers, Mike

[Roy L S]

It also suggests an abandonment of the imposed 15% max initial dealer discount which I have not seen mentioned anywhere else.

Roy

The max 15% discount is only for a limited period of time - 8 (or 12?) weeks IIRC.

Cheers, Mike

Hi Mike

That's a very fair point but I haven't as yet seen retailers break ranks significantly even after the initial period. Agreed, if they do it may well mitigate the cost rise to the consumer even if doing little for dealer margins!

My issue is that we are currently working to an unconfirmed premise of a 20% price rise across the board and the big discounts are calculated on the basis of these "new" prices which is why I am curious to know if the 2014 prices were indeed provided by Bachmann or are Antics' own assumption.

Regards

Roy

[Newportnobby]

TBH, unless we can establish the trade price to Antics, anything we come up with is conjecture. I can hardly believe that, if Farish have increased the trade price by 20%, that Antics would commit virtual economic suicide by then giving such a large discount
At the end of the day, I guess we'll all just have to shop around for the best deals - something I do before purchasing anything anyway.

[red_death]

Hi Roy

Bachmann have been clear that the 20% figure is an average and that some items will increase much more than 20% and others less.

From that I'm making an educated guess that the figures presented from Antics are their calculations rather than the official figures.

As an aside you are right that many shops have used the max 15% discount policy as an opportunity to bolster margins and not applied any further discounts at the end of the restricted period. I fear that was inevitable, though it only takes one of the large box shifters to break ranks and we could see more discounting again.

Cheers, Mike

[MKP]

I have pre-ordered a Graham Farish 'N' from that well-known Liverpool-based emporium in the expectation of being able to buy it at the existing price. I'd like more than one but at well over a £100 each, one will have to do. I can diagram Graham Farish Bulleid Light Pacifics and, for later years, Graham Farish BR Standard 2-6-4Ts, (all well under £100 secondhand, even including service / repair at BRlines) instead.

I was tempted by a 64XX but, despite the reasonable price still showing for pre-orders, really cannot justify one, except as a 'preserved' loco. at Bodmin GWS, so will wait.

The N Class is not due for release until probably this time next year! in which time the price may go up again.

As stated before, for the first 8 weeks of a release the maximum discount permitted is 15%, so selling at the original price would be in breach of the agreement, which does become difficult when they up the price.

Don't know if anyone has said this before on here, but Dapol had a 9% increase last year.

[Chris in Prague]

I have pre-ordered a Graham Farish 'N' from that well-known Liverpool-based emporium in the expectation of being able to buy it at the existing price. I'd like more than one but at well over a £100 each, one will have to do. I can diagram Graham Farish Bulleid Light Pacifics and, for later years, Graham Farish BR Standard 2-6-4Ts, (all well under £100 secondhand, even including service / repair at BRlines) instead.

I was tempted by a 64XX but, despite the reasonable price still showing for pre-orders, really cannot justify one, except as a 'preserved' loco. at Bodmin GWS, so will wait.

Well, we'll see. Pre-ordering MAY mean that I can buy at an advantageous price. If I don't pre-order I will certainly have to pay what ever is the going rate for whenever the N comes out. (I thought it was due earlier than next year but haven't been following the news that closely.)

The N Class is not due for release until probably this time next year! in which time the price may go up again.

As stated before, for the first 8 weeks of a release the maximum discount permitted is 15%, so selling at the original price would be in breach of the agreement, which does become difficult when they up the price.

Don't know if anyone has said this before on here, but Dapol had a 9% increase last year.

[PLD]

I think that until it is confirmed that the source of the 2014 prices shown by Antics was indeed Bachmann I will take the 20% across the piece price hike they are currently showing here with a proverbial "pinch of salt".

Roy

And it wouldn't be the first time a trader has over-quoted the RRP to make their discounts seem more generous than they really are... ...

[daveg]

Got an email 10 mins ago from Liverpool advising that a MK1 sleeping car  374-926 currently at £17 pre-order will cost £22.06 once item arrives in store sometime next week.

That's pretty close to +20%!

Dave G

[Chris in Prague]

Got an email 10 mins ago from Liverpool advising that a MK1 sleeping car  374-926 currently at £17 pre-order will cost £22.06 once item arrives in store sometime next week.

That's pretty close to +20%!

Dave G

So, if you've pre-ordered at £17 you'll actually have to pay £22.06?

[shandy]

Got an email 10 mins ago from Liverpool advising that a MK1 sleeping car  374-926 currently at £17 pre-order will cost £22.06 once item arrives in store sometime next week.

That's pretty close to +20%!

Dave G

I'd be advising them that they can keep it

[daveg]

No, sorry for being so unclear.

Pre order at old price or wait till 12 May when kit in stock and it'll be £22 odd.

Dave G