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Offline LASteve

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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #210 on: November 27, 2018, 03:07:20 PM »
Any advice on the best way to represent the windows on a Scalescenes model? It seems almost impossible to accurately and cleanly cut the window openings from the paper or card, I've tried a lot of different paper/card weights and generally disappointed myself. My latest effort was to cut the main frame out, and then use microscope glass marked up with a white "road line" pen to represent the individual panes within the window, but it's almost impossible to be consistent with the line width.

The Scaleglaze kits obviously are designed for the job, and I've just ordered a couple of sets to try them out. They are costing me almost three times what the actual model cost (the farmhouse and barn) though, so before I launch into building terraced houses and other buildings I'm wondering if there's a more cost-effective solution?

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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #211 on: November 28, 2018, 02:29:25 AM »
Any advice on the best way to represent the windows on a Scalescenes model? It seems almost impossible to accurately and cleanly cut the window openings from the paper or card, I've tried a lot of different paper/card weights and generally disappointed myself.

Those tiny windows are incredibly fiddly. I print on HP 'Presentation Paper' and my approach is to use a brand new scalpel blade for the windows and to cut them out at the start of a modeling session before my eyes get too tired!

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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #212 on: November 28, 2018, 02:58:01 AM »

Those tiny windows are incredibly fiddly. I print on HP 'Presentation Paper' and my approach is to use a brand new scalpel blade for the windows and to cut them out at the start of a modeling session before my eyes get too tired!

Thanks, I'll give it another try. I have used a brand-new scalpel blade, maybe I need a better magnifier, better paper and a lot more patience! They look OK when I cut them, but the moment I take a photograph of the model, it looks like I cut them out with a bread knife while wearing boxing gloves.

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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #213 on: November 28, 2018, 03:44:48 AM »
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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #214 on: November 28, 2018, 08:40:02 AM »


The Scaleglaze kits obviously are designed for the job, and I've just ordered a couple of sets to try them out. They are costing me almost three times what the actual model cost (the farmhouse and barn) though, so before I launch into building terraced houses and other buildings I'm wondering if there's a more cost-effective solution?

Scalescenes own alternative (and cheaper) solution is to print out their windows that are available with some kits or separately from their website onto overhead transparency film which is available quite cheaply on the internet for both ink jet and laser printers.  Scalescenes also do a "dirty glass" pro-forma which is good for engine sheds and old factories.

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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #215 on: November 28, 2018, 11:30:53 AM »
I know it costs a bit more but I use etched brass windows and doors (Peedie models) then stick a sheet of OHP film over the lot, helps hold them in place. As for cutting out, at further cost, I use a plotter cutter, it can cut an A4 sheet of card or Slaters Plasticard  with 2x 4 house terraces (or 4 lo relief)  in about 5 minutes for card, 8 - 10 minutes for Plasticard, all corners and curves exact and repeatable.

With card don't forget to run a suitably coloured felt tip pen over the edges of window and door openings, work from the back (unprinted side) then if the pen slips the mark should not be visible when assembled, same goes for any edges that will show at corners of buildings
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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #216 on: November 28, 2018, 12:02:35 PM »
The old Scalescenes kits had the sheet to prnt windows onto an A4 clear sheet. The only downside is / was they are black frames that do not seem suitable for houses.  I am now using the scaleglaze sets, even from Australia and the "wonderful" Italian postal system I am getting them within 10 days.

I have used Brass windows but they do tend to add an extra thickness to the walls which may leed to problems.  Last December I sent in an order to Brassmasters but got no response to my mails so , as soon as Scaleglaze was released I  tried them with and am happy with the results.

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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #217 on: November 28, 2018, 05:15:30 PM »
... or separately from their website ...

Thanks, I didn't know that alternative existed. I'll go and rummage around on the website and see what I can find.

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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #218 on: November 28, 2018, 07:30:10 PM »
Thanks, I'll give it another try. I have used a brand-new scalpel blade, maybe I need a better magnifier, better paper and a lot more patience! They look OK when I cut them, but the moment I take a photograph of the model, it looks like I cut them out with a bread knife while wearing boxing gloves.

Try cutting them out with a bread knife whilst wearing boxing gloves.

At least the photos will then be accurate.

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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #219 on: November 28, 2018, 11:39:57 PM »
The old Scalescenes kits had the sheet to prnt windows onto an A4 clear sheet.
Have they stopped including window outlines in new kits? :o
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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #220 on: November 29, 2018, 12:30:48 AM »
I use Scene Setters glazing bars for windows. If you require a different colour to white they can be coloured using a felt tip pen.

http://www.freestonemodel.co.uk/page20.htm

The pictures of them on the website aren't very clear. This post on RMWeb (by Grahame Hedges) shows them much better and subsequent posts show them in use

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/115057-scratch-built-card-and-styrene-structures-based-on-real-buildings/page-15#entry2839483

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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #221 on: November 29, 2018, 04:55:40 AM »
... I use Scene Setters glazing bars for windows. If you require a different colour to white they can be coloured using a felt tip pen.

This post on RMWeb ...

That shows what can be done. Thanks for the links.

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Re: Scalescene models
« Reply #222 on: November 29, 2018, 08:43:47 PM »
The old Scalescenes kits had the sheet to prnt windows onto an A4 clear sheet.
Have they stopped including window outlines in new kits? :o

Sorry "Don't PANIC"  I just have lots / all of the older kits. Later on some required cutting out the window frames to mount onto clear sheets. No just checked my download of the Island platform and it is a mix , cut outs for the office windows print out for the roof glazing.
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