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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2014, 06:24:06 PM »
Sorry to read that, Geo. Hope you're able to come up with a solution. Perhaps someone FAR more knowledgeable than I in such matters (I know nothing about them), can help?

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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2014, 09:24:13 PM »
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the RLM is useless now due to elink pathetic outpu
Is this just a power issue as a  booster may solve your problem.

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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2014, 09:33:46 PM »
It sounds like lack of power allows elink to trip before the RLM kicks in.

As the layout is quite complex to run i am going to take the central link out and create a terminus, jub sorted hopefully.
Geominster was my first project which has now been dismantled.

Having learnt so much from Geominster this is the new project.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=30850.0

The original layout progress here
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18319.msg184399#msg184399

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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2014, 11:52:11 PM »
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the RLM is useless now due to elink pathetic outpu
Is this just a power issue as a  booster may solve your problem.

Some of the reversing loop modules also have adjustable trip points. It's not necessarily the output so much as the speed of the trip. You need the reversing loop to trip faster than the DCC unit - so it may in fact be that the E-Link trip is just too good 8)
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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2014, 05:03:54 AM »
Quite possibly too good but think that unlikely.

Anyway this weekend is track relaying and resolve three issues in one.

The reverse loop problem which prevents any movement across the centre of Geominster rendering all that area useless, and also helps with the running of the layout by removing some of it's complexity which is attributed to my over complication initially and finally by making the centre a terminus and not a through line I can store trains there waiting other movements.

All positives really I suppose, just another load of work.
Geominster was my first project which has now been dismantled.

Having learnt so much from Geominster this is the new project.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=30850.0

The original layout progress here
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18319.msg184399#msg184399

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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #50 on: August 17, 2014, 08:31:51 PM »
Hi again, it's been nearly six months since I posted here and not much going on at Geominster apart from plenty of thinking.

I reinstated the reverse loop by just one through line as I realised there was no way of turning train direction without it, I also provided two separate tracks which will lead to an extension board with fiddle yard storage.

I gave up on the mimic panel I made as it was too complicated to operate, I was tempted by Hornby Railmaster and elink which seemed a great scheme and I managed to get it direct from Hornby for under 70 ! Ordered several dcc point decoders from Tawcrafts who were great and pre programmed them making life simple. I managed to get the Railmaster plan drawn up on the laptop and all the point decoders fitted, a small amount of track alteration was also done while all the other work was going on made Geominster more workable .

Cutting a long story short Railmaster controlled the points and was good at programming a route with the schematic showing point directions and everything seemed great. But while running locos around, I found that I never had time to actually watch the trains on the layout but needed to watch the laptop screen all the time.

I decided to abort Railmaster for loco control but retain it for the route setting and schematic which all worked well on my ipad. Previously I used NEC Powercab for loco control so I decided to go back to that for loco control and separated the circuits so they never conflicted.

During the hot weather I have been avoiding any work on the layout but last week spent a day making a few adjustments and basically testing the whole layout. To my delight it all works brilliantly, Powercab allows control of locos without watching the controller and I have set up six loco recalls so I can have plenty of action with something going on all the time, so basically was the right decision for me anyway.

I have bought a few more locos during the summer and fitted the dcc chips in them so all set to play now.

I have also done the planning to the layout extension which will give me fiddle yard storage and a longer running layout which will probably start in earnest mid September.

I will try and get some photos and plans on the thread shortly.
Geominster was my first project which has now been dismantled.

Having learnt so much from Geominster this is the new project.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=30850.0

The original layout progress here
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18319.msg184399#msg184399

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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #51 on: August 17, 2014, 09:57:50 PM »
Thanks for the update, George, and I'm glad to hear you have things set up in the best way for you to operate. I just wouldn't be able to play run trains without looking at them as that's what I bought them for.

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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2014, 07:56:09 AM »
Just cannot believe how quickly time flies by, two months since I threatened to update and still not done it.
Hornby Railmaster update done without any mishap I delayed doing it because of possible problems but all went well, even the Pro add on went well and has made all my 45 degree points tidy on the mimic panel.
Tried out a new Deltic 55 yesterday over the entire layout and apart from one point direction setting and a very small dead spot on the track between a point and IRJ all was good. I have been loathe to try Geominster for a while because each time I have attempted to have a running session things have gone wrong. Not this time though. :D
Did discover the mimic of four points was wrong and altered that to follow the actual layout, how did I miss that?
Anyway hopefully going to populate Geominster with locos and rolling stock this week and post some photos here, long overdue.
Still loads of scenery to complete and I have been mulling over the proposed fiddle yard extension most of 2014, think I have decided what I want from it now and track and points been purchased.
I will endeavour a scan of the whole plans later.
Hoping to get the Brighton Belle soon for the Geominster Preservation Line.
Working on a Police Transit with blues working, need to construct a housing for them above the cab and transfers for the rear door.
Graffitti has been getting some attention and is next to print and apply.
All these ideas just means the job list gets longer and the completion date further away.
Hey Ho, and then of course my Xmas List, where did that go to just thought of something ease to add. ;D
« Last Edit: October 13, 2014, 07:58:20 AM by georgehgv »
Geominster was my first project which has now been dismantled.

Having learnt so much from Geominster this is the new project.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=30850.0

The original layout progress here
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18319.msg184399#msg184399

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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2014, 08:05:50 AM »
Good to hear you have a new Deltic... isn't it a great model?

Wot colour is it  >:D ;)

'cos you know the only blue is Nanking Blue, don't you.  :D ;)
« Last Edit: October 13, 2014, 08:11:25 AM by Bealman »
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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2014, 08:59:02 AM »
The Deltic is Graham Farish Kings Own Light Infantry which is operating out of my overflowing Preservation Line, in fact it may have to replace two others that will now be visiting "guests". Farish have made a great model and I picked it up new never run for 70.
It is a great slow and controlled runner under DCC, the headcode looks good and possibly my current favourite loco.

Very tempted to get another .....  but think the Blue Brighton Belle is next.
Geominster was my first project which has now been dismantled.

Having learnt so much from Geominster this is the new project.

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=30850.0

The original layout progress here
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18319.msg184399#msg184399

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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2014, 09:19:30 AM »
Got the same one which I picked up at Wigan on my trip earlier in the year. I love it, but you got a better price than I did!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2014, 10:08:02 AM »
Good to hear you have a new Deltic... isn't it a great model?

Wot colour is it  >:D ;)

'cos you know the only blue is Nanking Blue, don't you.  :D ;)

Oh Gawd :doh:
Now he's mixing up his Deltics with Blue Pullmans :P

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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2014, 11:18:13 AM »
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No doubt someone will prove me wrong.  ;D :thumbsup:
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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2014, 11:23:45 AM »
Oh I do wish people wouldn't keep putting up pictures of lovely blue Pullmans  :drool:

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Re: Geominster a first time Layout by a complete novice
« Reply #59 on: October 13, 2014, 11:24:14 AM »
Thanks for those nice photos. Superb scenic modelling (ballast, grass, bushes, trees), looks just like real life.

 

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