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Author Topic: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane  (Read 70120 times)

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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2014, 10:09:06 PM »
I like it! :thumbsup: looking good so far!

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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2014, 10:15:48 PM »
Hi Neal

Sadly not going to Yate - Day shifts both days.

Meanwhile.....on the test track Cowans chassis have completed several circuits with no issues! Will obviously need further trials over complex point work etc and there are a few issues to tweak.

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Russ,

That's a shame, would've been interesting to see how they negotiate the sharp curves on HHC.

Ahh well there's always Trainwest in April.

Cheers

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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2014, 12:06:02 AM »
Not one for those 'south of the Thames', looking at the details on the Breakdown Crane site... We didn't warrant 75ton lifting capability, obviously.

I don't care!

Rule 1 will be firmly applied!  :D

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There were two 75T cranes on the SR, as noted in my previous post (later than the one you quoted, Dave) - you do not need to play your 'Rule 1' card here. One was stationed at East Wimbledon (ADRC96201/ADB965186), the other at Hither Green (ADRC96200/ADB965185). The two 30T cranes were ADRC96100/01 (later ADB965183/84) - 96100 was initially at Feltham, then Clapham Junction and Horsham; my research on 96101 is as yet incomplete...
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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2014, 07:21:41 AM »
There were two 75T cranes on the SR, as noted in my previous post (later than the one you quoted, Dave) - you do not need to play your 'Rule 1' card here. One was stationed at East Wimbledon (ADRC96201/ADB965186), the other at Hither Green (ADRC96200/ADB965185). The two 30T cranes were ADRC96100/01 (later ADB965183/84) - 96100 was initially at Feltham, then Clapham Junction and Horsham; my research on 96101 is as yet incomplete...


What's interesting here is that to clean up the derailment I posted a link about in my last post the East Wimbledon crane was used rather than the one just across the tracks at Hither Green depot.

This got me thinking about whether 96200 still existed in 1987 and according to the BDRC forum it did, here's a link

http://www.bdca.org.uk/forumtwo/search.php?keywords=96200&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

With the more modern telescopic crane hopefully being produced by Modern Image Models there won't be any excuse for Southern region modellers not to have a crane on their layout.  However I cannot locate a kit for the Cowans Sheldon hand crane like the one that used to be at Tonbridge.

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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2014, 07:49:28 AM »
I recall that Trevor (AKA Chinahand) built a 'tweaked' crane from a kit but can't find his post.

Perhaps he'll be kind enough to refresh my memory and post a pic of his excellent model.

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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2014, 10:08:30 AM »


What's interesting here is that to clean up the derailment I posted a link about in my last post the East Wimbledon crane was used rather than the one just across the tracks at Hither Green depot.



The HG crane was in the SR Crane workshop at Ashford (Kent) for attention?
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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2014, 09:49:39 AM »
Hi Guys

Does anyone feel they can make a positive and comprehensive contribution towards this request?

Are you able to get a full list of what decals are required for this.

Ideally to cover all liveries and permutations that the crane could have appeared in.

Regards
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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #67 on: January 31, 2014, 12:46:36 PM »

Are you able to get a full list of what decals are required for this.



Parkside Dundas have them listed on this page, about 3/4 of the way down:

http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/acatalog/B.R._1948-65_Livery_-_Wagon_Transfers.html

Unfortunately they're for OO, but are Modelmaster decals. Maybe they can be approached for a 2mm version?
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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2014, 08:30:10 AM »
Hi Guys,

Quick photo update - Bearing in mind this is 55mm long. I'v primered the crane chassis's and then in to yellow. I was a bit disappointed with the roughness when viewed close up with a camera (they are in SLS). But it looked OK from what I call normal viewing distance.

So, after a coat of a better yellow, gave it a coat or two of Lakeland quick shine (as used to apply decals) and what do you think of the improved finish? Does this make SLS (or WSF is your still getting this from shapeways) more acceptable?

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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2014, 08:35:00 AM »
I would definitely prefer to buy it in FUD, this for me is way too grainy



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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #70 on: February 03, 2014, 08:57:41 AM »

Sorry RusselH, but I have to agree with Only Me, it's way too rough a finish, it needs to be done in FUD.

By the time you've slapped the paint on all the detail is lost, the springs and axle box are now just blobs on the shiny yellow picture.


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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #71 on: February 03, 2014, 08:59:29 AM »
I'd pay more for the better finish myself.

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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #72 on: February 03, 2014, 09:40:17 AM »
Hi Russ,

Agree with the above comments, looks like too big a compromise despite the cruel enlargement of the photo.

Regards

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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #73 on: February 03, 2014, 09:41:55 AM »
Hi Guys

Thanks - Thats some decent fast replies (shame no one wants to help out as much with the decals!)

Anyway, Yep understand about FUD - we all love its detail and thats whats planned for the crane body anyway. Meanwhile, just concentrating on the (current design) chassis - in FUD ~80 same in SLS is <20. A FUD chassis will have to be supplied in two parts to enable wheel fitting without breakage.

I will still make SLS available to those that ask for it as its a very cost effective option.

Meanwhile - more pics!

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Repairs - not everything has to be sent away - you can fix most thing's yourself. Ask and help will be provided.

Waiting for the RTR version? - why not try a kit?

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Re: NGF/3DR Cowans Sheldon Crane
« Reply #74 on: February 03, 2014, 10:08:57 AM »
Hi Russ,

Would FD be another option?   

Or if too fragile could a simple fold up etch be used with the detailed prints attached on top - or would that be too bulky?

Regards

Iain

 

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