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Author Topic: 3D Class 128 Gloucester Parcels Body - NOW AVAILABLE  (Read 25307 times)

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2013, 01:24:25 PM »
That makes sense Matt - dropping it onto a 122 chassis.

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2013, 03:32:30 PM »
Ignore the dodgey colours, my graphics card in this pc is awful !!





Side and front edging modified, doors corrected and adjusted lower inswing

Roof vents to be added
Head code boxes to be detailed
roof lip to be added
Exhaust Stacks
« Last Edit: October 10, 2013, 03:52:34 PM by Only Me »



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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2013, 03:55:48 PM »
Still not sure about the roof profile and dome. It's looking way closer but looks like you stuck a 158 roof on it ;-)

Front still looks too angular and flat. Take a look at this photo, it shows the rounding and also the angles on the nose quite nicely as its a unit after its nose job. Gives a good impression of the side and how the tumble under and upper body angles are done, as well as showing how the doors follow that profile

http://www.flickr.com/photos/74009/4296337484/#

(does look from it like your doors don't quite go down far enough either ?)

If the nose angling is done I think the roof may start to gel better - the way it joins relies upon the nose being angled otherwise you'd have flat horizontal bits between nose and cab

« Last Edit: October 10, 2013, 04:25:10 PM by EtchedPixels, Reason: added the photo (doh) »
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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2013, 04:23:48 PM »
As a lover of all parcels type vehicles I may have to move further to the dark (Diseasel) side...

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2013, 04:59:12 PM »
If you have a copy of DEMU's Update #40 there is an article on DMU body profiles.

Looks much better then the original.  If you look at the picture Alan (EP) has linked to then you will see the interface between the cab roof and cab front is curved (as well as the issue about it not being a flat front cab).

HTH

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2013, 07:24:58 PM »
I would actually strongly recommend using the Dapol 122 chassis. The reason is that the 122 and 128 were both built by Gloucester and have practically identical underframe detail, not just bogie spacing.

Whilst I agree the 122 chassis is nearer to  the 128 than a 108 chassis there were quite a number of differences in mechanical differences between the two, the 121 chassis would be a better match.

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2013, 11:29:55 PM »


This is starting to look better, have my 122 in pieces for sizings! parcels doors still to be enlarged head code boxes added and driver doors to be changed slightly.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2013, 11:32:49 PM by Only Me »



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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2013, 08:58:11 AM »
Coming along nicely. I may have to start keeping an eye out for a donor chassis!  :thumbsup:
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2013, 10:15:18 AM »
And so it continues :)




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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2013, 11:16:24 AM »
The roof still doesn't look "humpy" enough

http://scalerail.phpbbhosts.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=1113

may be handy - its got a diagram of a 115 trailer car which is I believe basically the same profile
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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2013, 11:24:34 AM »
Ah the frustration of trying to draw things without drawings (not that drawings are always accurate!).

The cab front is starting to look better, though I suspect the two angled parts of the cab front are too sharply angled - if you look at the head code boxes on the real thing and on your model you will see that there is much less material on the "outer" side of the box on the real thing suggesting the angle should be shallower.

The corridor connection should extend all the way to the bottom of the cab front.

Good to see the curved interface between the cab front and the roof, but overall the roof doesn't look as good as version 2 - it doesn't look "domey" enough at the front and possibly the whole roof is now too flat (but I will bow to other's opinions on that!).

Keep up the good work.

Cheers, Mike



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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2013, 11:34:30 AM »
Doh! I had forgotten about the Barrowmore scanned drawings.

Only Me - take a look at pages 138/9 of this: http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/BRDMUIssue.pdf

Cheers, Mike



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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2013, 11:46:15 AM »
Thanks Mike, That roof profile from the PDF is perfect to use.



Onwards and upwards! :)

Looks a bit better in this shot.. The code box edge is 1.4mm only (so 14CM in real scale).... Pictures dont look as good as the 3D Render...

« Last Edit: October 11, 2013, 12:09:44 PM by Only Me »



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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2013, 12:31:53 PM »
Agreed on the nose angle - definitely starting to look the part now though.
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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2013, 12:42:15 PM »
Just noticed that Fox seem to do a complete livery pack of transfers for these vehicles (FRH2018/20). How handy! :)
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

 

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