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Author Topic: 3D Class 128 Gloucester Parcels Body - NOW AVAILABLE  (Read 25308 times)

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3D Class 128 Gloucester Parcels Body - NOW AVAILABLE
« on: October 09, 2013, 02:55:34 PM »
Wanted a Parcels DMU but could only find ancient kits so thought I'd produce my own, available on Shapeways now.

Will fit on a Dapol Class 121 or 122 chassis.

Just finishing if anyone is interested :-



Prototypes Have Arrived...







These are now available to purchase from Shapeways, make sure you order the correct one, with or without gangways

http://www.shapeways.com/shops/N-gauge-emporium

They work out to 33 plus postage, unfortunately thats the price of FUD for you...

You will need :-

1. Dapol Class 121 or 122 Chassis, powered or unpowered, thats up to you..
2. Adam at Electra Railway Graphics can provide full Vinyls for the sides in all the liveries or John at Precision Labels will soon have a Parcels Service Decal set available if you wish to paint the model yourself.

INSTRUCTIONS ARE HERE:-
Click For Instructions

Dis-assembly Instructions :-
Disassemby Instructions
« Last Edit: December 24, 2013, 10:56:11 AM by Only Me »



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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2013, 04:32:32 PM »
Nice one, I'd be interested in that!

Let us know when it is finished please  :D

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2013, 04:51:48 PM »
Various bits look odd in the drawing. Not sure how much is the way the drawing shows up

Anyway take these as intended to be constructive. Do you have the actual 128 drawings (the Golding book is recommended if not - it's got drawings for almost all the first generation DMU stock)

- the sides of the 128 have a small tumbleunder (that is they curve inwards)
- the roof is a continuous complex curve not flat topped
- the ends join the sides with a curve
- the windows are on the right not the left hand door of the double doors
  (the ventilators btw line up with the centre of the double doors)
- the doors I think need to be further recessed
- the roof end is somewhat peculiar looking but I'm not sure if that is just the render

Do you have the relevant drawings or not ?

It also shouldn't fit a 108 chassis. The 128 is 63' the 108 is 57' (58 over body). In fact it should be a near perfect match for either the Dapol 121/2 or the Farish GWR railcar.

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2013, 04:56:00 PM »
http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/1307_1_20362.html

has a nice view of the doming on the Heljan one which to my eyes at least isn't too far off.

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2013, 04:59:21 PM »
Cheers EP, i was using a bhe model as a guide! Id noticed the curvature was not right on the roof and sides, the rest was guess work so i shall correct forthwith :)
PS i wanted it to fit the farish chassis for cost reasons.

Thanks again Paul



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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2013, 05:07:24 PM »
On the cost side I can see the logic. You can actually saw the 108 chassis into two pieces quite easily because it just uses a motor bogie  ::) and get the length right.

Definitely worth seeing if you can extract a copy of the Golding book for your local library service before all the libraries get closed down for good !

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2013, 05:21:25 PM »
Ooooh

Ive always wanted on of these.   was it ever done in royalmail red colours?

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2013, 05:47:01 PM »
Ooooh

Ive always wanted on of these.   was it ever done in royalmail red colours?

Cheers

Phil


Hi

Yes see this link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32978671@N08/3170606062/#

Picture of my 128 here
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=media;sa=item;in=7338

Cheers

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2013, 06:27:08 PM »
Hi Only Me

I think EP has identified the main issues - I'd buy one if it was correct (or at least much closer). The roof, interface with the cab/side, length and tumbleunder are pretty major issues (for me!).

Good luck fixing things.

Cheers, Mike



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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2013, 06:43:18 PM »
Looks like a good start, and I'm happy to see other members are taking a positive interest with some good input. :thumbsup:

I'll be tempted in one in the future no doubt.  :)

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2013, 06:46:47 PM »
Hi Only Me

I think EP has identified the main issues - I'd buy one if it was correct (or at least much closer). The roof, interface with the cab/side, length and tumbleunder are pretty major issues (for me!).

Good luck fixing things.

Cheers, Mike

Believe it or not these are extremely easy remedies :) watch this space....

Appreciate all the constructive criticism as this will make the model worth printing.

Thanks Paul



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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2013, 06:53:03 PM »
If I remember correctly the 128 is like most of the non Swindon units and the roof dome is the path swept by rotating the roof curve through 90° and then either hulled with (*), or cut by the cab end depending upon the units

Swindon 120's etc are different (intersection of the roof arc with a cylinder) which gives the distinctively visible 'lines' down to the corner of the roof where the direction changes. Something amusingly that while being much much simpler is badly wrong on so many models.

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2013, 09:01:59 PM »
Hi there,

Very interested in this...will you be doing split and centre head code versions??

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2013, 11:45:32 AM »
I would actually strongly recommend using the Dapol 122 chassis. The reason is that the 122 and 128 were both built by Gloucester and have practically identical underframe detail, not just bogie spacing.

Take off the 122 body and drop a 128 on and the details will still be pretty much correct. See the pictures below.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5136/5539617077_e1d6185c6d_z.jpg

http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/cwd/3046.jpg

Personally I would rather buy a 122 to convert. Even if it costs more, the fact that it could be used without modification would make it prefferable to me that cutting up 108 and then having to modify the underframe detail.

Your kit of course. Perhaps you could do a version for dropping onto the 122 as well?  :angel:
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

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Re: 3D Class 128 Parcels DMU Body
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2013, 12:43:24 PM »
I would like it if it fitted the 122 chassis.
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