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Re: Plywood cutting
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2019, 01:36:06 AM »
Neil, would you mind sharing where you source your birch ply. Round here its like hens teeth.


Believe I've posted this before, but if you want good quality ply at a reasonable price, these people are good (provided that 1500mm works for you):

http://www.slecuk.com/balsa-wood/Birch-Plywood.html

I've always been happy with what they've supplied!

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Re: Plywood cutting
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2019, 12:19:48 PM »
You can cut 3.5mm or 4mm ply with a sharp Stanley knife.  It takes quite a few strokes and a good, long, straight edge.  I certainly wouldn't want to do it that way for a living, but it is OK for a "one-off".  Take care not to slice your finger-tips off!!

"Strong enough" is a good question.....I would say that even thin ply is "strong" enough; unless you are expecting to reverse your car over your layout or have a clumsy pet elephant.  It is stiffness that is more the issue for model railways, and that depends on the method of construction more than the strength of the materials used.  Closed boxes are the stiffest form; that's what makes hollow core doors so good (from this perspective anyway).

If I were making a layout with conventional heavy wooden framework and top, I would use thin ply with sundeala on top, fairly light and great for track-laying.

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Re: Plywood cutting
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2019, 05:35:55 PM »

If I were making a layout with conventional heavy wooden framework and top, I would use thin ply with sundeala on top, fairly light and great for track-laying.

Cheers Jon  :)
And just for the sake of having balance; here is an opposing view:
I wouldn't touch sundeala with a barge pole. It warps at the slightest change in temperature or humidity and needs very rigid framing with very short distances between cross members, and even then it ends up looking like a field worked in a crop rotation system in the 14th century. Just my 2p.

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Re: Plywood cutting
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2019, 10:02:51 PM »

If I were making a layout with conventional heavy wooden framework and top, I would use thin ply with sundeala on top, fairly light and great for track-laying.

Cheers Jon  :)
And just for the sake of having balance; here is an opposing view:
I wouldn't touch sundeala with a barge pole. It warps at the slightest change in temperature or humidity and needs very rigid framing with very short distances between cross members, and even then it ends up looking like a field worked in a crop rotation system in the 14th century. Just my 2p.

cheers
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Not if it's laminated to the ply as described.

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Re: Plywood cutting
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2019, 03:12:46 PM »
Sorry Jon
I missed that bit about using ply with sundeala.
I still wouldnt bother though. Its more trouble than its worth; all of course in my exceptionally humble opinion.

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Re: Plywood cutting
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2019, 06:45:12 PM »
Sorry Jon
I missed that bit about using ply with sundeala.
I still wouldnt bother though. Its more trouble than its worth; all of course in my exceptionally humble opinion.

No worries.   Sundeala seems a bit of a marmite material.  As you say, it is pretty bad as a standalone top, far too soft and wobbly, but I like it as a surface to lay track on as an alternative to cork. I love the way it takes track pins, and how you can easily excavate it for small changes in level.  It reminds me of Haloumi cheese!

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Re: Plywood cutting
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2019, 08:17:20 PM »
It reminds me of Haloumi cheese!

Cheers Jon  :)
Nah, I like Haloumi.😊

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