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Author Topic: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links  (Read 33651 times)

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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2014, 01:35:53 PM »
Hi,
how to fit new Dapol Manor Drycott with 6 pin Gaugemaster?
Thank you

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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2014, 01:39:03 PM »
Did you read the instructions that came with the locomotive?

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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2014, 02:51:26 PM »
There were no instructions in the box, only the warrant paper... :(
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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2014, 03:05:53 PM »
Hi,
I solved it with a little bit of instinct......I did remove ,very slowly, tender chassis and found the 6 pin slot....
thanks the same :thankyousign:
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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2014, 10:17:08 AM »
Hi all,

Has anyone got a link for chipping a Dapol 14xx - the links metioned so far send you to the Dapol website and it no longer seems to show the conversion any more.   :hmmm:

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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2014, 10:41:39 AM »
for a 14xx use a CT Elektronik DCX76, or DCX75 (generally a lot smaller but a fraction longer).
CT decoders are capable of superb running, way better than other small decoders, and they are tiny.
You may have to tweak the motor control CVs in a DCX75, though the more recent versions seem to run better "from the box" than earlier models. Look to make changes to Motor PWM value (CV9, default 134, try values between 134 and 152), P & I values (CV's 51 and 52, start by moving both in proportion, then when best running, try moving I, CV52, independently) and the Voltage Reference (CV64, higher values will reduce the loco's top speed (good!), can sometimes need to be as high as 200 or 250)


Its a can motor, so pretty much red and black of the decoder go to the pickups and the grey and orange go to the motor terminals, there's a pic here of one in bits.

You don't need the suppressor either so that gives a little more space in the cab for the decoder..

DCC Install pic


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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2014, 12:54:19 PM »
Thanks Only Me,  :thankyousign:

That picture paints about 950 words.  The other 50 words might explain "how do you get the board to squeeze into the small space available?"  ???

Since you say that the suppressor caps and coils can be removed, can the board be shoehorned around the back of the chassis or does it have to sit above the can? (the picture gets a little vague from the angle it's shown at).

Much obliged for all the info.

Stu (who is getting out his soldering iron and small tip in anticipation)


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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2014, 01:02:10 PM »
the CT Elektronik DCX is so tiny it will sit in the cab when you put it back together... Just a question of looking and positioning it..  I usually put some capton tape over the motor/metal parts to stop any potential short..

YOU WANT THE DCX76Z sorry as in picture below...

DCC supplies do them at a reasonable price.

PS it is considerably smaller than the one in the picture above :D



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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2014, 01:20:07 PM »
Only Me

 :thankyousign:

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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2014, 01:27:38 PM »
This may help Pesky Badger, here's a pdf copy created by me a couple of years ago when I did my conversion of the Dapol 14xx DCC conversion.

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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2014, 08:43:58 AM »
Thanks Caz - that helps as well.

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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2014, 06:14:07 AM »
Thank you very much for this thread,it WILL be invaluable!!

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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2014, 10:15:01 AM »
This one http://tinyurl.com/y99wwrj (the working 94xx link) will be of great help with my proposed 2251 project - I thought I'd probably have to put the decoder in the Collett's tender, but it should fit in the loco (depending on the thickness of the casting).

I've seen several of these, but it's excellent to have them all in one place.

Great job! Cheers

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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2014, 10:23:39 AM »
The smallest standard decoder you can currently buy is the CT DZX76, really minuscule but if by your 2251 project you mean the Peco version there isn't room in the loco for even one of those, only space is the tender, still trying to work out how to fit sound into my Peco 2251.

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Re: N Scale GB DCC Fitting Guide Links
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2015, 09:19:06 AM »
I'm just coming to the end of a long process of DCC'ing all my old 1970's-1980's Farish engines (NOT split chassis), and have a word document "guide" with pictures that is almost ready. Will post in a week or two when I finished the 8F and 47. Includes Class 08, 37/47, GWR Pannier, GWR Prairie, GWR Hall, LMS 8P, Stanier 8F and a couple of Minitrix (Britannia, 9F). I notice that the DigiHats now come with an instruction leaflet that is "quite" useful, but I think it severely underestimates the amount of chassis filing you need to do on any steamer with big wheels (Praire, Hall, 8P). Every one of my conversions in CT DCX76Z.

 

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