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Re: apt
« Reply #60 on: July 19, 2013, 06:02:52 PM »
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thank you, i'm thinking that's about the best I am going to get

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Re: apt
« Reply #61 on: July 19, 2013, 06:15:57 PM »
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thank you, i'm thinking that's about the best I am going to get


Scorpion,

This is looking fantastic, and I'm sure you'll be selling quite a few of them.

But, can I just say something, even though this link from Alan is the opposite side http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:APTP_Driving_Trailer_Second.gif something just doesn't look quite right on your drawing compared to the link.

I think the curve at the top of the cab, where it joins the straight section of the rest of the coach, doesn't look flat enough, in the picture from the link, the door lines up with a flat section of roof, this would make the curve into the nose section shorter.

The second thing I've noticed, is the angles in the bodywork around the bogies, I think they look a bit too much. In fact to my eyes (and they are old eyes  ;) ;) )the front portion of the bogie well, doesn't have an angled piece.

Please don't take any of this as criticism, as you've done a much better job than I could ever do. It's just  a couple of things that stood out to me.

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Re: apt
« Reply #62 on: July 19, 2013, 06:52:47 PM »
Unless I'm much mistaken the roof curves begins after the cab door and into the nose, it doesn't curve over it.

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Re: apt
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2013, 08:04:16 PM »
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ok so here is the latest attempt

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Re: apt
« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2013, 08:11:47 PM »
That's better. Nose and roof profile looks spot on to me now. Well done.

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Re: apt
« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2013, 08:14:24 PM »
i'd better get on with the coach interiors then  :thankyousign:

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Re: apt
« Reply #66 on: July 19, 2013, 08:17:08 PM »
Hi Scorpion;

For once,( and I know I am going to regret it  :no:) I agree with Neal....the cab now looks spot on...
Excellent work...and thanks for listening to us 'armchair experts/rivet counters/whingers'*(delete as appropriate).

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Re: apt
« Reply #67 on: July 19, 2013, 08:19:43 PM »
i'm always open to suggestions to make things look right, I've learnt over the years that you can't always believe a set of drawings no matter what the source of them, and something like this it always helps to have a second eye, when i'm drawing I am too involved in it so loose sight of what i'm trying to achieve

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Re: apt
« Reply #68 on: July 19, 2013, 08:26:19 PM »
Hi Scorpion,

Looking much better now after your latest tweaks, well done.

Once you get to the point of selling these I think I'll definitely be up for a set, always wanted an APT of my own...

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Re: apt
« Reply #69 on: July 19, 2013, 08:35:24 PM »
I hope you've got a big railway timmo its nearly 2 meters long for a full set

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Re: apt
« Reply #70 on: July 19, 2013, 08:41:41 PM »
That's no problem, it's 13ft long, but still trying to come up with a workable plan I like.

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Re: apt
« Reply #71 on: July 19, 2013, 09:06:36 PM »
You can get away with a shorter set.  During the summer of 1986 on went past nearly every day made up of one half set plus one trailer and one driving trailer from another set.  A handier length to model.

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Re: apt
« Reply #72 on: July 19, 2013, 09:56:04 PM »
I've taken the liberty of adding some colour to your image to give a better impression of how it all sits. Overall, I'd say the shape is there but the cab window and drivers' door might need to be slightly raised up. The other image is from Wikepedia and looks to be pretty good (better than one of mine, anyhoo).



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Re: apt
« Reply #73 on: July 19, 2013, 10:56:00 PM »
that's pretty awesome I like it, but yes a few more miniscule tweaks may be needed

all the interiors are drawn in with seats throughout and a buffet bar

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Re: apt
« Reply #74 on: July 19, 2013, 11:00:02 PM »
The middle window pillar in each saloon (and the equivalent in the brake and driving coaches) is wider than the others because of a structural bulkhead at this point. I always thought the drawings published in the old Airfix in Model Trains (May 1980) were pretty good.

 

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