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Re: apt
« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2013, 03:00:33 PM »
I know I ran out of time before bed last night  :sleep:

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Re: apt
« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2013, 05:34:33 PM »
I know its been a while but I have finally found the time to finish off the DTS nose properly

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I think it captures the shape pretty well although there may still be a couple of little tweaks to make.

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Re: apt
« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2013, 12:38:06 AM »
Hi Scorpion,

Looks good, but I think the APT-P has a much steeper slope to the front nose angle. The APT-E (gas turbine) had a longer sleeker nose.

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Re: apt
« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2013, 12:53:47 AM »
I'll check the dimensions tomorrow looking at a couple of photos its seems a little shallow in angle, but now is the time to change it while its still cad

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Re: apt
« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2013, 09:21:20 AM »
Looking good, can someone change the title though. Everytime I look at it I think it's about something being apt rather than being about another example of amazing engineering that flops because of the infrastructure / environment. I put it in the same category as Concorde.

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Re: apt
« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2013, 01:40:50 PM »
I can see the similarity.......................  :D

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Re: apt
« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2013, 04:06:32 PM »
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so I checked the dimensions and corrected the nose profile

I have also now put an interior into the Trailer restaurant buffet second

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Re: apt
« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2013, 04:42:26 PM »
I don't know its hard to tell, not sure whether its just an optical illusion or not

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Re: apt
« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2013, 05:01:12 PM »
Hi Scorpion,

Trying to be constructive here.....your transition from flat roof to curve is too gradual and starts too far back along the cab.  If you draw an imaginary line up from the corner of the fwd bogie recess, then the cab front should approximately start there....if you follow my link and look at the side elevation image of the DTS ( although right facing!!), hopefully you can see what I mean.

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Re: apt
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2013, 05:21:30 PM »
I see what you mean

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Re: apt
« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2013, 05:42:36 PM »
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any better, and I do appreciate the help  :thankyousign:

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Re: apt
« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2013, 05:45:50 PM »
Cab door forward a bit and even tighter radius on the curve....but the rake looks right. straighten off the lower fairing (looks a bit Pendolino at the mo) and I think you will be virtually there. Window looks a lot better too indicating that the angles are correct...

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Re: apt
« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2013, 05:54:29 PM »
Lower fairing is basically straight - in fact most of the apt-p is flat surfaces. Its in some ways clearer on some of the pre-production images that still existing from models etc.

Don't trust the models as changes were made but the nose shape is clearer if you look at both the early model and the production unit

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http://train-photos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/14878.jpg

(A good way to imagine how the APT skin works below the roof line is to imagine a framework of straight cylindrical poles with spherical ends joined together and then the body wrapped around it)

For the rake and cab roof see

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which IMHO is pretty much bang on. Dunno what others feel ?

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Re: apt
« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2013, 06:01:38 PM »
I think we are referring to the same pic essentially...just in different places..
And I agree...it looks spot on!!

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