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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #630 on: December 13, 2019, 05:54:59 PM »
Nice job @Paddy it will be nice to see the artwork, bit of trial and error on sizes but a fantastic coach on completion.

You got a nice rake to work through???

Hauled by something worthwhile I hope  :hmmm:

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #631 on: December 13, 2019, 07:41:02 PM »
Excellent stuff; thank you very much.

Best wishes.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #632 on: December 13, 2019, 08:50:59 PM »
Hi @exmouthcraig

I have enough Pullmans and a Fourgon to complete the train but as I said it is worth doing a proof of concept first.  If it works then great but if not then not too much is wasted.

Kind regards

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #633 on: December 14, 2019, 06:34:18 AM »
Hi @exmouthcraig

I have enough Pullmans and a Fourgon to complete the train but as I said it is worth doing a proof of concept first.  If it works then great but if not then not too much is wasted.

Kind regards

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #634 on: December 14, 2019, 01:56:02 PM »
You have a lot more patience and confidence in your skill than I do.  :wonderfulmodelling:

Hi @Innovationgame

Not sure about that!  :no:

The amazing people on this forum have given me inspiration and a willingness to "have a go".  We are fortunate these days as the products available (paints, varnish etc.) are extensive and readily available online.  In most cases, I find the Humbrol Acrylic spray cans to be quite effective and give a good result.  I also think it is important to be realistic about one's expectations as there is very little chance of me getting anywhere near RTR in terms of finish.

Sadly, a lot of the later models are rather difficult to take apart and repaint without damaging them and this is why I use older Farish, LIMA and PECO models.

As always, I appreciate everyone's kind comments and support.

Kind regards

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #635 on: January 20, 2020, 05:12:02 PM »
MILITARY TRAIN - PART #1

Progress on the CIWL cars ground to a halt over the Christmas period for a variety of reasons.  The CIWL project has not been cancelled, but to get my modelling mojo back I have changed tack!

Another train I always wanted on HOLLERTON JUNCTION was a military one e.g. Warflats with tanks etc.  The limiting factor has been the availability of suitable armour for the train until a post by Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl ) back in September highlighting his 1:160 models of various vehicles.

The following thread details the journey that Kevin and I have been on...

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=46554.0

To cut a long story short, Kevin created a 1:150 model of the British Cromwell tank for me.  You can see the result of our efforts on page 8 of the above thread.  I cannot recommend Kevin's models highly enough and he is willing to scale them to any size you want.  I went for 1:150 to give a wee bit of wriggle room on the Warflats.

The military train will be made up of a number of wagons and the first three are:

1. Minitrix BR Ventilated Van (13572).
2. PECO 5 Plank Open Wagon Kit (KNR-40).
3. Minitrix 20 Ton BR Brake Van (13570).


Photo 1. The first three wagons.

Although the Minitrix ventilated van is based on a German prototype, I thought it would look good within my consist giving a European/NATO feel.  The wagon was stripped down to its components parts and washed thoroughly in warm soapy water.  Once dry, the body and roof were soaked in IPA to remove the printing (took about 1 hour).

The only issue I had was removing the body from the chassis as it is held in place by four plastic lugs.  These need to be pressed in to release the chassis but on my model they were very brittle and broke off.  I suspect this is down to the age of the model and can easily be remedied with a spot of glue when reassembling.


Photo 2. Minitrix BR Ventilated Van.

The PECO 5 plank open wagon will be used to carry tarpaulined supplies.  This is the first time I have bought this particular kit and I am very impressed.  The only issue is that there are some door supports on the inside that I need to remove to get the intended load to fit.  As above, the body was cleaned in IPA for 20 minutes prior to painting.


Photo 3. PECO 5 Plank Open Wagon Kit.

The Minitrix brake van is a very good model (for its day) and in plentiful supply on eBay.  Fortunately, I already had this particular one in stock.  The only issue is getting the roof off as Minitrix and/or some previous owners tend to glue them in place as they can be rather loose.  My roof was only held on with a wee bit of glue and ping'd off with some gentle pressure.  The model was cleaned in warm soapy water and the printing removed with IPA.  The roof on my brake van was not painted but I still gave it a soak in IPA.


Photo 4. Minitrix 20 Ton BR Brake Van.

Once all bodies/roofs were dry, I followed my now standard practice:

1. Apply a thin coat of Halfords Grey Primer.
2. Apply a coat of Humbrol Acrylic Spray 86 Light Olive.

These items will be left to cure overnight before applying a coat of Testors Clear Coat and reassembly.  I will upload photos of the completed wagons once they are finished.

This is not the end of the train!  There will be additional wagons added in the coming days/weeks and I will keep you all up-to-date with progress.

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #636 on: January 20, 2020, 05:18:23 PM »
Very nice. Iím glad I could help out! :)

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #637 on: January 21, 2020, 12:35:15 PM »
MILITARY TRAIN - PART #2

The first three wagons of my military train have cured and had a coat of Testors Clear Coat applied.  Reassembly of the wagons was relatively straight forward but I thought it would be useful for others to know the issues I had to address.

As mentioned previously, the chassis of the Minitrix ventialted van had to be glued to the body.  This required the ballast weight and both ends to have glue applied (a wee bit more than anticipated).  The Minitrix wheels (which I am not a fan of as they move on their axles) were inserted and adjuasted with back-to-back gauge.


Photo 1. Minitrix BR Ventilated Van.

This PECO 5 plank open wagon went together easily although I struggled with the little hexagonal nuts.  Does anyone know of a tool/small spanner that makes this process easy?


Photo 2. PECO 5 Plank Open Wagon.

The open wagon was completed by the addition of a covered load from the Graham Farish Scenecraft pack 42-545.  These are very impressive little models and are quite weighty.  To stop the load shifting around, I placed a couple of pieces of blu tack underneath.


Photo 3. Graham Farish Scenecraft Tarpaulin Covered Wagon Loads.

The only issue with the brake van was those pesky shifting Minitrix wheelsets.  As above, they were checked with the back-to-back gauge once inserted.


Photo 4. Minitrix 20 Ton BR Brake Van.

The final photo shows the three wagons connected together.



There are still a number of other wagons to complete e.g. Warflats, Gunpowder Van and an NGS Lowmac (the most complex kit I will have attempted!).

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #638 on: January 21, 2020, 01:19:26 PM »

The final photo shows the three wagons connected together.



There are still a number of other wagons to complete e.g. Warflats, Gunpowder Van and an NGS Lowmac (the most complex kit I will have attempted!).

All looking very neat and, well, military! Personally, I'd be tempted to use a different camo colour on the tarpaulin, or maybe just a black wash to darken it.

?15? years ago I cobbled a Rectank, Warflats and a Warwell from (then) cheap US freight wagons:

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33185.msg382749#msg382749

It seems my cargo was fake too - the Crusader is actually an A13 Mk. III and the Bedford's really a Chevrolet...

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #639 on: January 21, 2020, 04:26:50 PM »
That's going to be a very interesting train... a bit different from what one normally sees.

This PECO 5 plank open wagon went together easily although I struggled with the little hexagonal nuts.  Does anyone know of a tool/small spanner that makes this process easy?

To my very great shame, I just use (carefully!) a pair of pointed pliars.  Very poor engineering practice!

These nuts are between 9 and 10BA.  I expect a metric size and finding a metric spanner around Poppingham isn't likely to be successful.

With best wishes.

John
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(Acknowledgement: John Goodall Esq, Architectural Editor, 'Country Life'.)

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For the made-up background to the railway and list of characters, please see here: https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=38281.msg607991#msg607991

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #640 on: January 21, 2020, 04:40:37 PM »
That is, as John says, something a bit different.
Those wagons look really good but I must agree with Mike in that the tarpaulin would look good in a different colour. Maybe khaki or grey perhaps?

Regards

Martin
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #641 on: January 21, 2020, 04:44:48 PM »
I  Folded my tarpaulin and ran a was of grey and brown over adding streaks to crease lines. I third above comments

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #642 on: January 21, 2020, 05:01:45 PM »

The final photo shows the three wagons connected together.



There are still a number of other wagons to complete e.g. Warflats, Gunpowder Van and an NGS Lowmac (the most complex kit I will have attempted!).

All looking very neat and, well, military! Personally, I'd be tempted to use a different camo colour on the tarpaulin, or maybe just a black wash to darken it.

?15? years ago I cobbled a Rectank, Warflats and a Warwell from (then) cheap US freight wagons:

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33185.msg382749#msg382749

It seems my cargo was fake too - the Crusader is actually an A13 Mk. III and the Bedford's really a Chevrolet...

Mike

Hi Mike ( @maridunian )

Thank you for your kind comments and love your military train too.  As for load, I believe you may be right although the difference is greater in real life.  I will wait until the train is complete and make a decision then.  That load is also quite high and there are four to choose from.  ;)

Kind regards

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #643 on: January 21, 2020, 05:03:25 PM »
That's going to be a very interesting train... a bit different from what one normally sees.

This PECO 5 plank open wagon went together easily although I struggled with the little hexagonal nuts.  Does anyone know of a tool/small spanner that makes this process easy?

To my very great shame, I just use (carefully!) a pair of pointed pliars.  Very poor engineering practice!

These nuts are between 9 and 10BA.  I expect a metric size and finding a metric spanner around Poppingham isn't likely to be successful.

With best wishes.

John

Hi John ( @Train Waiting )

Doh, that is a good idea and I did not think of that!  I was struggling with tweezers which are just not man enough for the job.

Many thanks

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #644 on: January 21, 2020, 05:05:04 PM »
That is, as John says, something a bit different.
Those wagons look really good but I must agree with Mike in that the tarpaulin would look good in a different colour. Maybe khaki or grey perhaps?

Regards

Martin

Hi Martin ( @port perran )

I think you are both right and I will revisit the load once the train is complete.  I am awaiting delivery of some Evergreen planked sheeting to complete the Warflats.

Kind regards

Paddy
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