!!

Not Registered?

Welcome!  Please register to view all of the new posts and forum boards - some of which are hidden to guests.  After registering and gaining 10 posts you will be able to sell and buy items on our N'porium.

If you have any problems registering, then please check your spam filter before emailing us.  Hotmail users seem to find their emails in the Junk folder.


Thanks for reading,
The NGF Staff.

Author Topic: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)  (Read 125143 times)

J sorby and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Pengi

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5226
  • Country: 00
  • Gender: Female
    • Twitter
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #75 on: April 10, 2013, 06:50:02 PM »
I've just sent an email to Crafty about the issues I've been having - will let you know what they say. It seems that the ink is not adhering to the paper.

Thanks Pengi - look forward to hearing how you get on.

Paddy

They emailed me and asked me to change printer settings. This didn't work so I emailed them back and sent them samples today. Had another email saying they think it might be the paper at fault but will look at the samples I have sent.
Just one Pendolino, give it to me, a beautiful train, from Italy

Offline Paddy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 10732
  • 2mm Association Number: N/A
  • Posts: 1312
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #76 on: April 10, 2013, 09:16:51 PM »
I've just sent an email to Crafty about the issues I've been having - will let you know what they say. It seems that the ink is not adhering to the paper.

Thanks Pengi - look forward to hearing how you get on.

Paddy

They emailed me and asked me to change printer settings. This didn't work so I emailed them back and sent them samples today. Had another email saying they think it might be the paper at fault but will look at the samples I have sent.

Thanks Pengi.  Hope they can sort it.  As you may have seen I am going down a different approach for my TARTAN ARROW sides.

Paddy
HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
London Midland Region
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11342.0


BARRIES'S TRAIN SHED - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeBWZv78QooTejcYi5afQBg/videos

Offline Paddy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 10732
  • 2mm Association Number: N/A
  • Posts: 1312
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #77 on: April 15, 2013, 01:16:40 PM »
TARTAN ARROW TRAINS - THE STORY CONTINUES...

Looking at B&W photos of the TARTAN ARROW trains from the 1960s and the preservation repaints I am convinced the Lima livery is wrong.  As you may recall, Lima painted the top half of their CCTs (N and OO) a yellow/cream colour.  This does vary from model to model but it is a long way from white.

The photo evidence seems to suggest that the top half was actually white, it may have been slightly off white but you cannot tell.  I emailed Dennis Lovett at Bachmann to see if they had any livery information for their impending CCTs but alas not.

So although it does not match the Lima livery I will go with white as the top half with a black roof.

Thoughts?

Many thanks

Paddy
HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
London Midland Region
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11342.0


BARRIES'S TRAIN SHED - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeBWZv78QooTejcYi5afQBg/videos

Offline EtchedPixels

  • Advertiser
  • Trade Count: (+44)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 16353
  • 2mm Association Number: 4412
  • Posts: 8286
  • Country: wales
  • Gender: Male
    • Ebay
    • Google+
    • Twitter
    • YouTube
    • Etched Pixels
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #78 on: April 15, 2013, 05:33:43 PM »
I would be very wary of plain white. Firstly nothing white ever stayed white for longer than the press launch secondly you judge colours a lot by contrast. It's surprising how grey the blue/grey livery grey is for example if you see it on its own.

A slightly off white may be safer, However the following is an interesting (albeit model) view which rather supports you assumption.

http://www.settleandcarlisle.co.uk/downloads/content/additional/images/cct_tartan_arrow_small.jpg

and a preservation one

http://www.rvp-ltd.org.uk/images/94707a.jpg


The Lima CCT always looked like a misguided application of crimson/cream.

Also I found this rather fun shot. These are LMS 50ft BGs (much like if not the same as the forthcoming Bachmann ones)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/3551405662/#

Might also be worth asking some of the truck types - find out what colour their lorries were painted ?

Alan
"Knowledge has no value or use for the solitary owner: to be enjoyed it must be communicated" -- Charles Pratt, 1st Earl Camden

Offline Paddy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 10732
  • 2mm Association Number: N/A
  • Posts: 1312
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #79 on: April 15, 2013, 08:29:17 PM »
I would be very wary of plain white. Firstly nothing white ever stayed white for longer than the press launch secondly you judge colours a lot by contrast. It's surprising how grey the blue/grey livery grey is for example if you see it on its own.

A slightly off white may be safer, However the following is an interesting (albeit model) view which rather supports you assumption.

http://www.settleandcarlisle.co.uk/downloads/content/additional/images/cct_tartan_arrow_small.jpg

and a preservation one

http://www.rvp-ltd.org.uk/images/94707a.jpg


The Lima CCT always looked like a misguided application of crimson/cream.

Also I found this rather fun shot. These are LMS 50ft BGs (much like if not the same as the forthcoming Bachmann ones)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/3551405662/#

Might also be worth asking some of the truck types - find out what colour their lorries were painted ?

Alan


Hi Alan,

Yes, I saw some of the images you reference as well - definitely a leaning to white.  Totally accept your point about white not staying white though.  As for the LMS BGs it would be good if GF released one in TARTAN ARROW livery as well.  They could even do some containers, pop a Class 45 on the front and bingo!

Many thanks

Paddy
HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
London Midland Region
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11342.0


BARRIES'S TRAIN SHED - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeBWZv78QooTejcYi5afQBg/videos

Offline ReBeginner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 127
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
  • Where to begin...................... or end?
    • Ebay
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #80 on: April 15, 2013, 08:33:55 PM »
Paddy, haven't read the full thread so don't know if Lillian is going to be cheating with Paul at Hollerton - again? Will there be a branch line to Penny Hasset?
Do like your boards though, wish I'd have gone your route instead of self build.
Regards
David
Less is more .............. So I'm told!

What do we want?
Hearing Aids
When do we want 'em?
Hearing Aids

Offline Paddy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 10732
  • 2mm Association Number: N/A
  • Posts: 1312
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #81 on: April 15, 2013, 08:40:20 PM »
Ah my secret is out David.  :D

Long live the Archers.

Paddy
HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
London Midland Region
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11342.0


BARRIES'S TRAIN SHED - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeBWZv78QooTejcYi5afQBg/videos

Offline ReBeginner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 127
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
  • Where to begin...................... or end?
    • Ebay
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #82 on: April 15, 2013, 08:49:43 PM »
Can't believe I was the first to pick up on this ..................... can you? Poor old Tom eh? And what will Matt (Chico in another radio drama life) do when he finds out about cheating slapper (she always has been, even in the early 60's)
Been listening since it started, my father would park the car to listen uninterrupted, guess it was about 1956 - Aunt New Zealander was still alive, and Charles Grenville and By Golly It Looks Good And By Golly It Does You Good too!
Less is more .............. So I'm told!

What do we want?
Hearing Aids
When do we want 'em?
Hearing Aids

Offline Paddy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 10732
  • 2mm Association Number: N/A
  • Posts: 1312
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #83 on: April 16, 2013, 12:41:19 PM »
I would be very wary of plain white...
Alan

Hi Alan,

Been looking at a Lima catalogue from the early 1980s and the photos of the OO and N TARTAN ARROW CCTs have a white upper half.  Either the existing Lima CCTs were originally painted incorrectly or I wonder if the paint has yellowed over the years?

Many thanks

Paddy
HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
London Midland Region
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11342.0


BARRIES'S TRAIN SHED - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeBWZv78QooTejcYi5afQBg/videos

Offline Paddy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 10732
  • 2mm Association Number: N/A
  • Posts: 1312
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #84 on: April 22, 2013, 12:15:29 PM »
TARTAN ARROW TRAINS - THE STORY CONTINUES...

Had a rather productive weekend on the TARTAN ARROW front.  The container sides were masked and the roofs sprayed Humbrol matt black.  I have to say the finish is excellent and far exceeded my expectations.

The artwork for the container sides is complete with the white matched to the colour used by Farish on their Freightliner container.  Matching the white colour was not easy until I hit upon the idea of scanning the Farish container to get the RGB values!  Not orthodox but it worked.

The container sides have been printed on to sticky backed paper and will be applied this evening all being well.  I will upload a photo so you can see the final result.

Many thanks

Paddy
HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
London Midland Region
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11342.0


BARRIES'S TRAIN SHED - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeBWZv78QooTejcYi5afQBg/videos

Offline ReBeginner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 127
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
  • Where to begin...................... or end?
    • Ebay
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #85 on: April 22, 2013, 12:35:48 PM »
Paddy, I thank you for the info and on going, but...........my sympathies are with Tom.
Less is more .............. So I'm told!

What do we want?
Hearing Aids
When do we want 'em?
Hearing Aids

Offline Paddy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 10732
  • 2mm Association Number: N/A
  • Posts: 1312
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #86 on: April 22, 2013, 03:49:17 PM »
Paddy, I thank you for the info and on going, but...........my sympathies are with Tom.

Mmm, wonder what I should call the pub at HOLLERTON JUNCTION...

 :D

Paddy
« Last Edit: April 22, 2013, 03:58:04 PM by Paddy »
HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
London Midland Region
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11342.0


BARRIES'S TRAIN SHED - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeBWZv78QooTejcYi5afQBg/videos

Offline ReBeginner

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 127
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
  • Where to begin...................... or end?
    • Ebay
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #87 on: April 22, 2013, 03:56:42 PM »
Platform whatever the number from Brief Encounter but after Lillian and Mr Pratt or just Big Lil's, maybe? Could be the Cat & Fiddle if you liked?
Less is more .............. So I'm told!

What do we want?
Hearing Aids
When do we want 'em?
Hearing Aids

Offline Paddy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 10732
  • 2mm Association Number: N/A
  • Posts: 1312
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #88 on: April 24, 2013, 09:38:34 AM »
TARTAN ARROW TRAINS - THE STORY CONTINUES...

Last night I assembled the first TARTAN ARROW container bogie wagon.  The first wagon was supposed to be a "test" but the end result is rather good (IMHO) and I have learnt a great deal in undertaking this project.

One question though as the roof colour of the container is proving a challenge.  The photos I have show the roof to be "black" so I sprayed them Humbrol Matt Black No. 33.  The finish is excellent but it looks a little too black (if that is not a stupid statement).  I feel that a dark (almost black) grey may be more effective.  Not wishing to buy numerous cans of paint to try and find the right one can anyone recommend a colour?

Many thanks

Paddy
HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
London Midland Region
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11342.0


BARRIES'S TRAIN SHED - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeBWZv78QooTejcYi5afQBg/videos

Offline Paddy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 10732
  • 2mm Association Number: N/A
  • Posts: 1312
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #89 on: April 24, 2013, 01:44:31 PM »
Hi Folks,

Just had to write about some Yard Lamps that I purchased on eBay.  Given the price I did not really expect too much but thought it was worth a go.  The lamps arrived safely in a new jiffy bag and come from Mike Howarth (he of Stanier coach fame).  I did not realise this when I ordered them.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370797327950

Although the lamps are simple they look very effective IMHO especially after a bit of paint and possible addition of ladders.

Anyway, highly recommended if you are looking for a low cost set of yard lamps (non working).

Many thanks

Paddy
HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
London Midland Region
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11342.0


BARRIES'S TRAIN SHED - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeBWZv78QooTejcYi5afQBg/videos

 

Please Support Us!
February Goal: £60.00
Due Date: Feb 29
Total Receipts: £65.00
Above Goal: £5.00
Site Currency: GBP
108% 
February Donations


Advertise Here
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal