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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #675 on: February 19, 2020, 08:25:22 PM »
I'd say that's the best outcome [url=https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356]@Paddy][/url]
I'd say that's the best outcome [url=https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356]@Paddy[/url] looks very authentic!!!


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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #676 on: February 19, 2020, 08:26:28 PM »
Hi @exmouthcraig

This is my concern as I do not want to ruin what I have achieved by going too far.  I know we are supposed to push ourselves but this project has already been a significant challenge.   :worried:

I may add some anti-roll planks before and after the wheels although these will be very small.  Like the following:

https://henk.fox3000.com/mhill/1/20.jpg

Kind regards

Paddy

I think that adding anti-roll planks before and after the wheels would be good. Maybe cut from a matchstick?

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #677 on: February 19, 2020, 08:27:53 PM »
Off the record, I have come close to scrapping HOLLERTON JUNCTION (well this version) as I am so inspired by Poppingham's simplicity.

Paddy

Please don't scrap Hollerton Junction, Paddy.  It's far too good for that.

It's definitely my kind of layout.

Poppingham's simplicity is proving fairly difficult to achieve.  It is my Mk IV attempt at a Table-Top Railway.  What I have learned from this is that it is much easier to complicate than to simplify.  It took a fair bit of talking myself into no trailing crossover between the up and down lines.  And, as for doing away with point motors and operating the points with a stick...that took some persuading of me by me!

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #678 on: February 20, 2020, 03:18:34 PM »
MILITARY TRAIN - PART #6

@Panzer-Shop.nl, @emjaybee, @Snowwolflair, @acko22, @Railwaygun, @The Q, @RailGooner, @Richard G Dallimore, @kirky, @Tank

Right then folks, it is time for the big one - the Warflats with their Cromwell tanks!  I left this to last as it is the part of the train which has required the most modelling.

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The starting point (apart from @Panzer-Shop.nl excellent Cromwell models) is the Graham Farish 50 Ton Bogie Sulphate wagon (373-425) which I obtained from eBay.  Farish used this chassis (we only need the chassis and bogies) under several of their wagons e.g. the London Brick version and the N.E. Fish Van.


Photo 1. Graham Farish 50 Ton Bogie Sulphate wagon.

The wagon needs to be disassembled into its constituent parts with all but the chassis put away for safe keeping.


Photo 2. Disassembled bogie wagon.

The next step was to cut replacement wooden decks to go on the chassis.  To achieve this, I ordered a sheet of EverGreen Car Siding HO Scale 3-1/4” Spacing, 1mm thick (4037).  Ignore the HO bit as this is perfect for N gauge and gives you approximately six-inch planks.  I cut the decks about 1mm wider than the chassis to provide the small overhang that the real Warflats have.


Photo 3. Wagon decks cut from EverGreen styrene sheet.

The chassis needed extensive masking (apart from the top sides) to ensure that no primer or paint got on to the underframes.  The next photo shows the result after applying a light coat of Halfords’ Primer.  Note that I did not apply the primer to the top of the chassis as this is where the deck will be glued.


Photo 4. Primed wagon chassis and decks.

The deck was glued to the chassis with Superglue and left to dry before applying a coat of Humbrol Acrylic 86 Light Olive.  Prior to sealing with a coat of Testors’ Clear Coat, the buffer heads were painted with Humbrol Acrylic 33 Black Matt.

As you will have seen in the Land Rover post, magnets will be used to attach the Cromwell tanks to the wagons.  Testing indicated that two magnets would be needed to attach the tank as one allowed for rotation.  Easy you may have thought, a bit of Superglue and “Roberts your Father’s Brother”!

Due to the power of the magnets, gluing two in close proximity proved a challenge even with fast setting Gorilla glue.  In the end, I found a method that worked i.e. apply the glue to the model, press the magnet on to the glue and hold on for dear life.  Eventually I got all 12 magnets attached (2 per wagon and 2 per tank).  Once the glue was dry, I touched up the edges with Humbrol Acrylic 85 Coal Black Satin.  Due to the tank tracks (and me learning from my mistakes) the Cromwells did not require any touch up.


Photo 5. Wagon chassis and Cromwell tank with magnets attached.

Despite the trickiness of handling these magnets, they have proved an excellent way of attaching wagon loads with no visible mess.  The last two photographs show the completed Warflat and finally with Cromwell tank attached.


Photo 6. Completed Warflat.


Photo 7. Completed Warflat with Cromwell tank.

This instalment brings my Military train project almost to an end.  The current consist is:

3 x Warflats with Cromwell tanks
1 x Fuel tanker
1 x Pallet van
1 x Bolster wagon with Land Rover
1 x DB van
1 x Gunpowder van
1 x 5 plank wagon with tarpaulin covered load
1 x ER brake van

There are a few tasks left to do:

1. Weathering the tarpaulin covered load.
2. Applying some detailing on the wagons e.g. little black data panels.
3. Try to attach anti-roll planks to the Warflats and bolster wagon - this one makes me nervous.
4. Adjust the B2B on the brake van.
5. Not sure about this one, but I may add a Stanier brake coach to carry the officers and soldiers.

Comments and suggestions are always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #679 on: February 20, 2020, 03:23:00 PM »
an officers coach would look the part. and strappings on the wagons !! when have a chance

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #680 on: February 20, 2020, 03:32:34 PM »
That is some nice modelling Paddy - looking forward to seeing the whole train in action.  :thumbsup:
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #681 on: February 20, 2020, 04:00:30 PM »
an officers coach would look the part. and strappings on the wagons !! when have a chance

not totally certain, but don't think straps, more likely chains and tensioners in those days.

thing is, if tanks removable, how to make the chains equally so. :hmmm:
typed by fur box mechanic - dictated by brain on a chain

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #682 on: February 20, 2020, 04:29:13 PM »
Hi @class37025

I will not be adding chains but rather anti-roll bars as per this example:

https://henk.fox3000.com/mhill/1/20.jpg

Kind regards

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #683 on: February 20, 2020, 04:31:18 PM »
A very neat job!
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #684 on: February 20, 2020, 04:56:37 PM »
A very nice piece of work!

I use blue/blacktac to hold the tanks on ( and I use the Bachmann Oldtimer flats as my Warwells - Rule 1)
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #685 on: February 20, 2020, 05:12:56 PM »
A very nice piece of work!

I use blue/blacktac to hold the tanks on ( and I use the Bachmann Oldtimer flats as my Warwells - Rule 1)

Hi @Railwaygun

Thank you - the results have been far better than I hoped for.  With hindsight Black Tack would probably have been easier.  I went a bit Tiger tankish and over engineered my solution!

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I did consider the old timer flats (I assume you mean the ones that came with the WWI tanks?) but these were a bit too long for HOLLERTON JUNCTION as I wanted to build a complete train.  The bogie wagons save me a few centimetres (modellers license permitting).

The real game changer though is the tank from @Panzer-Shop.nl which made the whole project achievable.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #686 on: February 20, 2020, 05:18:05 PM »
Hi,

Well, thank you for the kind words. It has been my pleasure!

Great work on the flatcar too. It looks really good!

Do you mind if I use your picture of the railcar with Cromwell for my webshop later on?

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #687 on: February 20, 2020, 05:26:02 PM »
Hi,

Well, thank you for the kind words. It has been my pleasure!

Great work on the flatcar too. It looks really good!

Do you mind if I use your picture of the railcar with Cromwell for my webshop later on?

Kevin
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Hi Kevin ( @Panzer-Shop.nl )

Thank you.  I would be honoured to see my humble creation exhibited on your website.

It has been quite a journey but we got there in the end.

Many thanks

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #688 on: February 20, 2020, 11:11:08 PM »
a bit of brown milliput over the gun muzzle will replicate the sack that was used to keep the dirt out in transit
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #689 on: February 21, 2020, 08:00:57 AM »
Blimey @Railwaygun, you are really challenging my eyesight.  I wear a pair of 3.5x glasses from the Home Bargains plus one of those magnifying headsets with LED light to see what is there already.  :goggleeyes:

O gauge here I come...  :D

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