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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #525 on: January 26, 2016, 08:56:52 PM »
Thanks Joe. I have to say that I was surprised myself at how well this project went.  A few years ago I would not have known where to start.  However, these days I am happy to have a go and I must be getting a bit better as my disasters are getting less.  ;)

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #526 on: February 09, 2016, 04:06:59 PM »
Hi Folks,

As wee project I thought about replacing the chassis on some old LIMA box vans.  Ah I thought, these will be cheap as they are old, not overly accurate and have been superseded by better models.

The prices for LIMA box vans (and other wagons) seem extortionate.  Am I missing something?  Are the LIMA wagons sought after by collectors and/or modellers?

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #527 on: February 09, 2016, 08:49:27 PM »
I think in general all secondhand prices are high. With ever increasing prices for new, secondhand prices are bound to go up as well.
Coupled with exorbitant postal charges asked by sellers on that auction site it is usually cheaper for me living in Spain to buy new from box shifters. 
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #528 on: February 09, 2016, 09:47:27 PM »
Hi Paddy. I think there are collectors of these old Lima vans and wagons even though some, at least, are overscale. I know the 8-plank wagon bodies are popular for remounting on Peco wagon chassis.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #529 on: February 10, 2016, 08:14:46 AM »
Thanks both, the prices are amazing as you can end up paying more for an old LIMA wagon than a brand new super detailed one from Graham Farish or Dapol.  Ah well, it was a nice idea while it lasted - a bit of recycle and reuse.  :)

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #530 on: February 01, 2017, 12:36:25 AM »
HOLLERTON JUNCTION - UPGRADING THE CHASSIS ON A LIMA BOX VANS

After some searching I managed to acquire a few Lima box vans to modify.  As previously mentioned, the hope is to replace the chassis with a more modern equivalent.  The box vans themselves come in some interesting (if not prototypical) liveries and will add a bit of variety to the fleet.


Photo 1. Lima Box Van in Castrol GTX livery.

The above photo shows the starting point – a good condition Lima box van in Castrol GTX livery.  The existing chassis is rather crude and the van sits too high with the pizza cutter wheels.  Initially my plan was to use the PECO 10-foot wagon chassis but I found this required quite a bit of surgery to the box van as the PECO chassis top is not flat.

Whilst this modification is achievable (I modified a Lima van this way) it is a lot of work and rather messy.  I then came across Dapol’s 7 plank wagon chassis (2A-000-016) which is the right length and has a completely flat top.


Photo 2. Dapol 7 Plank Wagon Chassis.

The first step is to gently separate the Lima body from the chassis.  You will find there are four plastic lugs holding the body and chassis together – gentle pressure should be sufficient.  Do not worry if one or more of the lugs breaks off as they need to be removed anyway.

Using a scalpel and file remove any rough bits from the van bottom to provide as flat a surface as possible.  I then glued the Lima body to the Dapol chassis using Deluxe Materials Rocket Rapid super glue which sets in about 30 seconds.

The Lima roof is a shiny dark grey plastic which looks very toy like.  To give the van a more realistic finish I I sprayed the roof with Humbrol Grey Primer.


Photo 3. Completed Lima Box Van with replacement Dapol chassis.

Using the above method, a Lima wagon can have its chassis upgraded easily.  The only issue I found was that the Lima body seems slightly too wide – either that or the PECO/Dapol chassis is too narrow!  I suspect the former given the somewhat dubious scaling of the Lima N Gauge range.  One thing I do find surprising is that Dapol supply their replacement chassis in their high quality jewel case with foam insert and cardboard sleeve.  Surely it would be cheaper to dispense with this and use a polly bag?

However, when the wagon is on the track and part of a train the width is not noticeable.  The new chassis looks good and means the wagon now matches the height of other newer wagons.  Given the cost of Lima wagons and the replacement chassis this is not a cheap project but it is fun and means I have something different to run on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.

As always your comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #531 on: February 01, 2017, 07:08:57 AM »
Very nice work, Paddy. There are also old Graham Farish vans in PO liveries which never existed in real life.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #532 on: February 01, 2017, 09:41:47 AM »
Thanks very much for that, Paddy.
I just happen to have a Lima Castrol GTX wagon :hmmm: :D

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #533 on: February 01, 2017, 03:36:53 PM »
Thanks Chaps.  I might darken the roof a touch to give it more of a contrast with the body colour.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #534 on: February 01, 2017, 04:16:48 PM »
Yes, I agree, Paddy. I use generic aerosol matt paint sprays for roofs: light, medium, and dark grey. I'd try medium grey first then dark if the contrast is not great enough.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #535 on: February 17, 2017, 11:16:02 AM »
Hi Folks,

I have been able to aquire a Dapol 2MT 2-6-2T locomotive in BR black.  It is a lovely wee model but I would like to paint the wheels as the "standard" jars on me.  Has anyone attempted this?  If so, what brand/colour of paint would you recommend?

Many thanks

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #536 on: February 18, 2017, 06:57:11 AM »
Hi Paddy, whilst the wheels should be a shade of black I cannot advise you further as I've never attempted to paint wheels to match the latest factory-finished models. I hope someone more knowledgeable can.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #537 on: February 20, 2017, 11:37:27 AM »
HOLLERTON POLICE & FIRE STATION PART 5 - VEGETATION

Some of you may recall that there was a small gap at the base of the stone wall in my previous post.  Well this has played on my mind so I added scatter at the base of the wall to cover it (see photo 9).

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Photo 9. Vegetation at the base of the wall.

That is it for today.  I was hoping to post a picture of Hollerton Police station with its new painted side gate and matching doors.  However, the photo showed that a small amount of “touching up” is needed!  :doh:

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

Many thanks

Paddy

Working my way through this excellent & informative thread, half way through but still have 2 years to catch up on!

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #538 on: February 20, 2017, 05:16:33 PM »
Working my way through this excellent & informative thread, half way through but still have 2 years to catch up on!

Thank you Milton Rail - that was the intention of the thread i.e. share my successes and also things to avoid.  I also mention the products I used (not because I have any link with them) as it helps to know what can work (from my experience).  Other options are always available but a starting point is useful IMHO.

Just need someone to reply about painting the wheels on my 2MT!  ;)

Many thanks

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #539 on: February 20, 2017, 06:55:53 PM »
Thanks Paddy, caught up with the end of the thread, great stuff, got me motivated to cracking on my layout when I get home this weekend (offshore weather & Air France permitting)  :)

Cheers,
Andrew
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