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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #180 on: September 30, 2014, 01:31:26 PM »
Looking at images of Prestwin wagons on the internet a number of them seemed to have silver ladders.  I have painted mine with Humbrol Acrylic Silver (No. 11) and you can see the result in photo 7.  At this stage the ladders look a bit shiny so I may choose to repaint them in bauxite or black when I get to the assembly stage - what do others think

Perhaps stipple with (a little) rust and then a wash of dilute black to tone them down. They should be shinier in the centre of each rung.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #181 on: September 30, 2014, 01:46:18 PM »
Thanks Chris and Dave - good suggestions.  I will assemble one wagon with the ladders "as is" to see what it looks like.  It may be one of those things which works in the overall effect.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #182 on: September 30, 2014, 04:04:44 PM »
PRESTWIN WAGONS PART 3 - CHASSIS

On closer inspection I noticed that one of the couplers had a rusty spring and needed to be replaced.  Now I do not know about everyone else but I always get a sinking feeling when it comes to replacing those tiny springs!

Luckily for me the whole process went very well and I have to say that Lima’s coupler pocket design is very good.  I simply prised off the metal cover, removed the old spring, cleaned the pocket and fitted a new spring.  What amazed me was that the spring clipped on to the end of the Lima coupler so it did not “ping” off in to the stratosphere. :)

The next job was to paint the axel box covers with yellow paint to indicate that roller bearings are fitted.  This took a couple of coats as the plastic does not like paint very much.

Finally, a new set of replacement Graham Farish 3 hole disc wagon wheels (379-410) were fitted to each wagon.  I assume these are the correct pattern as spoked and coach wheels did not sound right?  To get the wheels to run freely I had to open out the plastic bearings with a 1mm micro drill and of course then check the back-to-back measurements.

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Photo 8. Completed chassis with painted axel boxes and new wheels.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #183 on: September 30, 2014, 05:38:40 PM »
Looking good paddy. I think the wheels look better then the original ones. :thumbsup:

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #184 on: September 30, 2014, 07:06:20 PM »
Looking good paddy. I think the wheels look better then the original ones. :thumbsup:

Thanks JD although my photo does not do them justice.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #185 on: September 30, 2014, 07:29:07 PM »
I THINK that disc wheels would be suitable for these wagons, Paddy. If you look online I'm sure you can find some photos?

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #186 on: October 01, 2014, 09:54:25 AM »
I THINK that disc wheels would be suitable for these wagons, Paddy. If you look online I'm sure you can find some photos?

Hi Chris,

I think you are right.  Also, I added a second cote of Humbrol Matt Brown to one of the silo tanks and the bauxite effect is much better.  I will therefore do the same to the other silo body.

The next task is to apply a protective coat of Humbrol Matt Cote varnish to the bodies.  I have never used this Matt Cote before so this will be a learning exercise!  :worried:

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #187 on: October 01, 2014, 02:48:58 PM »
Hi Paddy,

Yes, a second coat should improve the 'depth' of the colour. Try out the Humbrol matt varnish on a painted scrap piece of plastic as my Humbrol matt varnish dried semi-gloss!

I look forward to seeing the photo. updates.

Kind regards,
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #188 on: October 01, 2014, 06:46:41 PM »
Mmm, not impressed with Humbrol Matt Cote.  I watched the video demonstration on Humbrol's website and followed their recommendations.  I mixed some Humbrol enamel thinners with Matt Cote and applied it with a new soft brush.  I got a semi gloss and uneven finish!  Both bottles were brand new?

Not sure what to do now.  Any advice?

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #189 on: October 01, 2014, 06:50:03 PM »
Oh dear, Paddy. I did warn you. 8-( Where did you apply it?

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #190 on: October 01, 2014, 06:52:38 PM »
Oh dear, Paddy. I did warn you. 8-( Where did you apply it?

To one of the silo bodies Chris.  I applied another coat of matt brown and I seem to be back where I started.  May be I should get a bottle of Humbrol Matt Clear?

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #191 on: October 01, 2014, 07:00:04 PM »
I was hoping that you would be able to paint over it, Paddy. If you do get a bottle of Humbrol Matt Clear try it out, first, on a piece of painted scrap plastic or plasticard. If you have a plastic model kit shop nearby maybe they have a similar product from Tamiya? I find their products very high quality although I have not bought any Tamiya matt varnish.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #192 on: October 05, 2014, 12:14:05 PM »
Hi Folks,

Well the varnishing of the two silo tanks has been a complete disaster.  I have tried Humbrol Matt Cote and Humbrol Matt Varnish spray and both gave poor results.  I have managed to remove most of the residue using thinners and cotton buds and next I will gently sand the surfaces smooth again.

As recommended I have ordered a can of Testors Dullcote and I will give this a go once the new top coat has thoroughly hardened.

Many thanks for everyone's help and advice.

Kind regards

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #193 on: October 05, 2014, 12:30:37 PM »
Not sure what to do now.  Any advice?

Something I learned the hard way was this: don't apply transfers to matt paints or varnish. Paint the model. Varnish (ideally with an airbrush to be honest) with gloss. Apply transfers (and weathering if necessary). Then apply matt varnish.

Apparently, matt varnish is matt because it scatters light, and it does that by being rough. So if you add anything to matt varnish, it becomes lumpy. Transfers trap air, for example. It's also a lot easier to slide transfers around on gloss surfaces than matt ones. That's because gloss varnish is shiny because it's smooth. So adding matt varnish has to be the last step.

Done this way, I've found the Humbrol products you mention work just fine. (Or at least, any shortcomings are clearly mine not the products!)

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #194 on: October 05, 2014, 01:29:35 PM »
Not sure what to do now.  Any advice?

Something I learned the hard way was this: don't apply transfers to matt paints or varnish. Paint the model. Varnish (ideally with an airbrush to be honest) with gloss. Apply transfers (and weathering if necessary). Then apply matt varnish.

Apparently, matt varnish is matt because it scatters light, and it does that by being rough. So if you add anything to matt varnish, it becomes lumpy. Transfers trap air, for example. It's also a lot easier to slide transfers around on gloss surfaces than matt ones. That's because gloss varnish is shiny because it's smooth. So adding matt varnish has to be the last step.

Done this way, I've found the Humbrol products you mention work just fine. (Or at least, any shortcomings are clearly mine not the products!)

Cheers, NeMo

Thanks NeMo and just to be clear, I am not blaming the Humbrol products - I am sure it is me! :(

Mind you, I was simply applying varnish to the Humbrol matt enamel top coat - there are no transfers.

Many thanks

Paddy
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