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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #165 on: September 27, 2014, 11:34:07 PM »
Thanks Only Me.  I was hoping to avoid the need for an airbrush.

Anyone tried the Humbrol 160 Red Brown Matt colour:

http://www.humbrol.com/paints/spray-paints/acrylic-spray-paints/160-german-camouflage-red-brown-matt-150ml-acrylic-spray-paint.html

If so, does it work as a bauxite equivalent?

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #166 on: September 28, 2014, 01:54:03 PM »
Hi Folks,

Did some more testing today with regards to Humbrol equivalent to BR bauxite.  The following two colours do not look too bad match:

http://www.humbrol.com/70-brick-red-matt-12ml-acrylic-paint.html

http://www.humbrol.com/186-brown-matt-12ml-acrylic-paint.html

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #167 on: September 28, 2014, 04:21:16 PM »
Humbrol Rust (Matt 113 enamel) is quite a good match for faded BR Bauxite. Halford's Plastic Primer Red aerosol spraypaint (acrylic, I think) is good for Early BR Bauxite with thinned matt black painted over it it looks remarkably like Late BR Bauxite. (See the two ex-LNER brake vans on my Cant Cove thread.)

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #168 on: September 28, 2014, 10:12:04 PM »
Humbrol Rust (Matt 113 enamel) is quite a good match for faded BR Bauxite. Halford's Plastic Primer Red aerosol spraypaint (acrylic, I think) is good for Early BR Bauxite with thinned matt black painted over it it looks remarkably like Late BR Bauxite. (See the two ex-LNER brake vans on my Cant Cove thread.)

Thanks Chris.  My test of Humbrol 70 & 186 has now dried and I think a mixture of the two will give me a good result.

I will report my results in due course.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #169 on: September 28, 2014, 10:19:21 PM »
My pleasure, Paddy. Looking forward to your results but those two colours should be a good combination.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #170 on: September 29, 2014, 11:06:16 AM »
PRESTWIN WAGONS PART 1 - THE PLAN!

As many of you know, there is no RTR version of the British Railways Prestwin wagons from the 1960s (see photo 1).  This does surprise me as it has been a regular model in OO since the days of Hornby Dublo.  Having said that, I am sure they will be announced not long after I have completed this project!  :)

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Photo 1. Hornby OO Prestwin wagon.

Looking at was available I decided to make my starting the point the old Lima twin silo tank wagon from the 1970/80s (see photo 2).  Whilst these are based on a European prototype I believe something “useful” could be made of them with a repaint.

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Photo 2. Lima Twin silo tank wagons.

The Lima silo wagons seem to be very popular and fetch quite high prices on eBay - maybe I am not the only one with this idea?  Luckily I came across two last weekend in good condition for a very reasonable price of £4.50 each.

So my plan is as follows:

1. Disassemble the wagons in to their individual parts
2. Thoroughly wash and dry the parts
3. Remove the Blue Circle transfers from the tank bodies
4. Prime the tank bodies
5. Paint the tank bodies in BR bauxite
6. Look at whether it is feasible to add a walkway on the tank tops
7. Paint the axel boxes yellow
8. Reassemble the wagons
9. Fit replacement Graham Farish blackened wheels

I am pleased to say that both wagons came apart very easily as Lima had not used any glue in their construction.  To remove the Blue Circle transfers I used very fine emery paper and a glass fibre pen (see photo 3).

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Photo 3. Stripped and cleaned tank bodies.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #171 on: September 29, 2014, 11:21:20 AM »
Looking good, Paddy. Maybe you would need to mount the tanks on a shortened chassis? Would the Peco kit 10ft. chassis be the correct length?

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #172 on: September 29, 2014, 11:33:42 AM »
Looking good, Paddy. Maybe you would need to mount the tanks on a shortened chassis? Would the Peco kit 10ft. chassis be the correct length?

Hi Chris,

You raise a good point.  Looking at prototype photos of Prestwin wagons they seem to come in both long and short chassis form.  Whilst the Hornby model has the short version there would seem to be nothing wrong with retaining Lima's original chassis (well apart from the fact that the whole model is a fudge!). :)

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #173 on: September 29, 2014, 11:36:02 AM »
I didn't realise, Paddy, that there were longer chassis versions, too. In that case, why not reuse the Lima chassis. 8-)

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #174 on: September 29, 2014, 11:37:58 AM »
I didn't realise, Paddy, that there were longer chassis versions, too. In that case, why not reuse the Lima chassis. 8-)

Thanks Chris - you know what I will. :)

BTW, I have been reading your own layout topic - you have done some excellent work.  I especially like the blue brewery wagons.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #175 on: September 29, 2014, 11:50:24 AM »
Thanks, Paddy. Painting wagons is very restful and enjoyable. The next step is print out the very small signs, one on each side, and glue them on.

Cant Cove station is at the end of the private branchline from the Castle Estates (producing cattle, horses, milk, meat, eggs, grain, beer, stone, timber) where the Castle Brewery, part of Trevelver Castle, is also located and both family-owned companies have their own liveried wagons, some, older well-weathered ones (mainly) for internal use and newer ex-works ones for running on the BR network.

The former Trevelver Castle Brewery, and justly famous for its award-winning Cornish ales, has also
invested in continuing services both passenger and freight to distribute its local ales (via Cant Cove yard), as well as having a reciprocal arrangement with Messers Bass Worthington to distribute theirs locally for all the thirsty summer tourists from the Midlands and North! (So, I needed some Trevelver Castle Ales 4w vans to go with my Bass and Worthington ones!)

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #176 on: September 29, 2014, 02:53:47 PM »
I agree Chris - I enjoy painting wagons too.  My results are definitely improving especially since I took Tony Wright's (British Railway Modelling) advice and use good quality sable brushes.  Also, I cannot over state how important preparation is before painting - I almost always use Humbrol Acrylic Matt Grey Primer as my base coat.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #177 on: September 29, 2014, 02:57:36 PM »
I certainly agree with you about the importance of good brushes. I'd add get them as small as possible as in N Scale a lot of painting is of very small items. I hardly ever use my medium-sized brushes. (I do have larger ones for painting scenery though.)

I use either Tamiya Matt Grey undercoat or Halford's Matt Grey Plastic primer, both spray cans. Definitely does make a big difference.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #178 on: September 30, 2014, 01:22:34 PM »
PRESTWIN WAGONS PART 2 - PAINTING

The next step was to prime the silo tanks using Humbrol Acrylic Matt Grey Primer (No. 1) to ensure a good base for the top coat (see photo 4).  No doubt I have said this before but I cannot praise Humbrol primer highly enough.

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Photo 4. Primed silo tanks.

After trying out a number of different colours to represent BR bauxite I decided to use Humbrol Enamel Matt Brown (No. 186).  To my eyes this matt brown paint is a good match to other bauxite wagons I have although it does look lighter in photo 6 than in reality.  The paint was applied with a good quality flat sable brush and the results are great.  I genuinely cannot tell the silos have been brush painted.  Looks like more excellent advice from Tony Wright of British Railway Modelling fame.

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Photo 5. Painted silo tank.

The Lima chassis is a good model (although no doubt it is generic) and after careful cleaning I have decided to leave them unpainted.  I will pop a drop of yellow paint on each axel box but overall the plastic looks too shiny to accept paint.

However, the wagon weights that Lima used are basically blackened metal and were a bit too shiny/obvious for my liking.  A quick spray on the visible side with Humbrol Acrylic Matt Black (No. 33) has toned them down (see photo 6).

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Photo 6. Wagon weights.

Looking at images of Prestwin wagons on the internet a number of them seemed to have silver ladders.  I have painted mine with Humbrol Acrylic Silver (No. 11) and you can see the result in photo 7.  At this stage the ladders look a bit shiny so I may choose to repaint them in bauxite or black when I get to the assembly stage - what do others think?

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Photo 7. Painted ladders.

More to come...

Comments and suggestions always welcome.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« Reply #179 on: September 30, 2014, 01:30:17 PM »
Looking good, Paddy. If the ladders look too shiny you can drybrush them with matt black or dark grey and then use matt varnish?

 

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