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Author Topic: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today  (Read 1616 times)

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Offline Gary Burcombe

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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2019, 02:27:29 PM »
I believe the punishment should fit the crime.  To this end they should be given community service and be forced to make models and learn the skills and perhaps come to appreciate the time and effort that goes into these layouts.  It may even rehabilitate them and give them something else to ease their boredom.  Otherwise, I'm in on the baseball battagram idea.

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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2019, 02:48:30 PM »
https://www.stamfordmercury.co.uk/news/four-arrested-at-welland-academy-after-vandalism-of-model-railway-exhibition-9070661/

the pictures are heartbreaking, this was done by people with very serious problems. I know what I'd do to them  >:D

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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2019, 03:06:35 PM »
do we know which layouts and traders were affected by this? It would be good to support them and help them get back on their feet

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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2019, 03:08:07 PM »
" I am glad the perpetrators were caught and hopefully will be charged and punished to the full extent the law allows. "

that would be what ?

'naughty boy, mustn't do that'

'but I missed two episodes of westbenders'

''oh, thats ok then, don't do it again'


I'm afraid I'm old school, my response would involve base-ball bats and very severe pain.
never mind the cretins 'human rights', they obviously are not human so does not apply.

"let the punishment fit the crime"
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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2019, 03:51:44 PM »
"police entered the building with a search dog."

I'd have left the search dog in the van, and sent in a general purpose ie trained to attack, dog, though my challenge of 'halt or I release my dog' may well, under the circumstances, have been a bit difficult to hear, as most probably would have been the 'stand still' and 'leave' commands. possibly choked by my tears at the scene in front of me.

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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2019, 04:08:46 PM »
Absolutely devastated for all the exhibitors whose work was destroyed. Heartbreaking.

I'm afraid that this reminds me of when some young lads in my old home town of Horsham keyed cars all the way home from the club in town to their home. They were under age, high and the police found them because the path of damage stopped at their neighbours car.
No punishment as they were under age.
In olden days, or in certain other Countries currently, you would just have your hands chopped off.

Its criminal and indefensible.

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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2019, 04:14:11 PM »
RMWeb are talking about setting up a 'Just Giving' site to at least provide financial support, even if that is perhaps the least of their pain.  I assume that we can support that?  I'll provide more details when they appear.  Jon

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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2019, 04:19:04 PM »
I have a huge amount of Farish and other N Gauge spares (mainly post Nationalisation), so if there is anything I can do to help anyone affected, please get in touch.
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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2019, 04:36:07 PM »
" I am glad the perpetrators were caught and hopefully will be charged and punished to the full extent the law allows. "

that would be what ?

'naughty boy, mustn't do that'

'but I missed two episodes of westbenders'

''oh, thats ok then, don't do it again'


I'm afraid I'm old school, my response would involve base-ball bats and very severe pain.
never mind the cretins 'human rights', they obviously are not human so does not apply.

"let the punishment fit the crime"

Seeing that a portion of what I have said has been quoted and makes an assumption that I would be happy with a lenient punishment, to be clear I would not. However like it or not, unless people are promoting anarchy, the best the police can do is present the evidence (the pictures are shocking) then we have to hope that the Judge pushes aside any "mitigating" factors claimed and the toughest punishment available handed out.

This angers me as much as the next person and I am pleased that the four perpetrators were caught in the act so will face punishment, rather than them getting away with it.

The story of the chap with terminal cancer who took years making a loco left at the venue over night that is now ruined makes me very sad and my blood boil at the same time, and I agree with a previous poster and similar postings on RM Web that the best thing we as a modelling community can do is come together to offer support to those impacted, be it finamcial or otherwise.

Roy
« Last Edit: May 18, 2019, 04:42:09 PM by Roy L S, Reason: Correction of quoted passage which was repeated »

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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2019, 04:38:44 PM »
I hesitated to post this link that includes a photograph of the mayhem caused as it may cause a lynch mob to ride forth.

But then I thought itís not often I have good ideas.

https://www.stamfordmercury.co.uk/news/four-arrested-at-welland-academy-after-vandalism-of-model-railway-exhibition-9070661/

Sorry Mods. Censor as you will.

Mike

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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2019, 05:27:01 PM »
Having seen the pictures as well as hearing the details on line and through Warley MRC internal emails I am both very sad and very angry.  We had a discussion at my local club committee meeting a couple of weeks ago about the insurance premium for layouts at our show.  I do wonder how realistic some of the owners valuations are - I think we totally undervalue the financial costs of our work in many cases.  Apart from the cost of parts etc. you cannot quantify the hours of loving work done to create these layouts or the amazing skill our fellow modellers show.

I've seen a couple of Facebook posts where other modellers are trying to crowd fund some additional assistance for those affected and also offers of help in various forms.  This makes me very proud to be associated with such a community.

My sympathy goes to all modellers and traders affected in this terrible and wanton act of mindless vandalism.

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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2019, 05:51:29 PM »
" I am glad the perpetrators were caught and hopefully will be charged and punished to the full extent the law allows. "

that would be what ?

'naughty boy, mustn't do that'

'but I missed two episodes of westbenders'

''oh, thats ok then, don't do it again'


I'm afraid I'm old school, my response would involve base-ball bats and very severe pain.
never mind the cretins 'human rights', they obviously are not human so does not apply.

"let the punishment fit the crime"

Seeing that a portion of what I have said has been quoted and makes an assumption that I would be happy with a lenient punishment, to be clear I would not. However like it or not, unless people are promoting anarchy, the best the police can do is present the evidence (the pictures are shocking) then we have to hope that the Judge pushes aside any "mitigating" factors claimed and the toughest punishment available handed out.

This angers me as much as the next person and I am pleased that the four perpetrators were caught in the act so will face punishment, rather than them getting away with it.

The story of the chap with terminal cancer who took years making a loco left at the venue over night that is now ruined makes me very sad and my blood boil at the same time, and I agree with a previous poster and similar postings on RM Web that the best thing we as a modelling community can do is come together to offer support to those impacted, be it finamcial or otherwise.

Roy

I apologise if you felt that my quote implied that you would be happy with a lenient sentence, that was in no way intended.

my comment was aimed fair and square at the mamby-pamby do gooders who seem to be incapable of actually punishing anyone who has committed a crime, be they judges, the senior police with their 'cautions', or anyone else.

it must be so disheartening for plods who catch these scumbags to see them virtually let off scot free again and again, and to know that they would be censured if they so much as exceeded their remit by an inch.

as usual, too many years of spineless so called law makers and appliers have let scum off, and it is now too hard to get back to when punishments were just that, PUNISHMENTS.

will it get to the situation that each local railway exhibition will need to have security on site overnight to protect the location, or will insurance companies either load premiums so heavily, or refuse cover, with the result that clubs will no longer be able to afford to put on shows.
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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2019, 07:10:24 PM »
I truly share your concerns. Having read the latest update on the local paper's website it seems that the four youths involved were tossing models and equipment through basketball hoops, and there is one image of an O Gauge Black Five, clearly kit or scratch built and many hours work in pieces and damaged beyond repair and a layout smashed to smithereens - totally heartbreaking.

This was wilful destruction of property on a large scale. Those involved knew exactly what they were doing and there can be no justification for any leniency whatsoever.
 

Roy

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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2019, 08:04:09 PM »
Everyone who know me and that I waffle on .
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Re: Deeping MRC show in Stamford cancelled today
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2019, 08:54:39 PM »
I've never seen such pictures of wanton destruction and would like to see the same done to the homes of these 4 wasters.
I do wonder what would happen if this had been done to the preparations for 'The Policeman's Ball'
Sorry, but I long gave up on so called justice in this country and am of the ' eye for an eye' sector.

 

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