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Offline Cstewart0809

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Few questions!
« on: February 26, 2019, 09:38:17 PM »
Hey guys,

Really enjoying being on the forum. Knowledge here is amazing.

Couple questions. I'm thinking about creating an American, modern, city layout but was curious about roads.

Is it best to use styrene sheets to create the roads etc or is it easier to just use a woodland scenics road kit?

What do you guys use for sidewalks?

Also a wee question about weathering buildings, any good videos on them? Bought a few kits but need to blend them in a bit.

Cheers,

Cameron

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Re: Few questions!
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2019, 09:45:23 PM »
Also, what is the best way to foam to use for creating mountains, and which glue is best to stick it down?

Does using a hot glue gun burn through styrofoam etc?

Cheers guys,

Cameron

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Re: Few questions!
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2019, 10:05:34 PM »
I've been using 1" thick polystyrene (Styrofoam) sheets and gluing with PVA. Once the shape is right, I have covered with plaster bandage.

I have used two methods: In one I have cut roughly to shape and then fixed down a layer or two at a time. Trimming with a hot-wire when dried. In the other (due to access), I have made the whole piece elsewhere, even painting, adding grass, trees, fences, animals, laying track and ballasting, before gluing the whole thing in place.

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Re: Few questions!
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2019, 10:11:09 PM »
Also, what is the best way to foam to use for creating mountains, and which glue is best to stick it down?

Does using a hot glue gun burn through styrofoam etc?

Not usually, not most foams anyway. Hot glue works very well on foam as any small child making squishies will tell you. The problem one with foams are some of the solvent based glues. They react horribly with some foams. Wiring also reacts with some foams.

The other way to make mountains is chicken wire as a shape and papier mache. The scenery from one of my previous layouts was actually almost entirely made from the notes from the masters course I had just completed.  Tearing it all up and turning it into hills was most theraputic. It's a more old fashioned approach, it involves lots of mess, lots of white glue and is fun and also kid safe.
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Re: Few questions!
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2019, 10:15:34 PM »
I just use carpenters glue (yellow, just like wood glue but a bit stronger) for gluing the foam.  Get the high density pink or blue foam, NOT the white stuff, its awfully messy.  The glue will take a while to set as there is little air exposure.  Don't use a hot glue gun!  it can cause an awful mess with the foam, an even if it doesnt melt it, at some point you'll accidentally put the glue gun down on the foam and its china syndrome time (I didnt do that.. honestly!).  I also tend to use it as a rough former and use plaster cloth over the top.  As for roads, its whatever works for you, people use all sorts of different methods.  I'm struggling with what to do myself for roads, I think styrene can look good if its painted well, but the woodland scenics method can make them a little more organic.

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Re: Few questions!
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2019, 10:16:27 PM »
Oh, one other thing.. if you want to blend your buildings in well, one thing that people tend to forget it the foundation.  Build a foundation into the scenery and place the building ontop of that.

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Re: Few questions!
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2019, 10:27:44 PM »
My roads are a mix of card and for rougher stuff sandpaper (the dark dark stuff). The main thing I find is to put the road down and then the scenery over the edges. That's especially true for rural roads where the grass and dirt don't form a well defined boundary.

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Re: Few questions!
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2019, 01:48:23 PM »
Hi Cameron

I've useing a product called Liquid nails for gluing pink foam stuff.
Roads are made by plaster, Dry wall fixing compound or anything available at the time.
Although it took me a long time to it, I'm happy with the result.
I don't have any logic behind of these materials.
My wallet decides what to use.
My wife and wallet are my dictators. Please help me.
Well, that's not my point here.
A saw cut Wood surface has the best pour concrete texture when painted.

I'm pretty sure a hundreds way to model objects effectively.
I'm very much looking forward to seeing your modeling adventures here on NGF!!

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Re: Few questions!
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2019, 10:07:44 PM »
 Thank you all for your responses. Blown away by the knowledge!!!

Could someone expand on the idea of a foundation for a building? What it would look like?

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Re: Few questions!
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2019, 12:45:20 AM »
Could someone expand on the idea of a foundation for a building? What it would look like?

Basically by creating "insets" into the scenery to place buildings into, so they're not just "sitting" on the landscape. I've done this here, where most of the buildings I use come with a section of "pavement" which would be about 1 metre high if I just plonked them onto the baseboard, so they're inset into the landscape:
 
road-construction by Rail Squid, on Flickr

FWIW I use 3mm Tamiya foamboard for roads, it's easy to work with and has a finely textured surface which looks reasonably tarmac-like.


Road markings by Rail Squid, on Flickr


road-improvements by Rail Squid, on Flickr

It might not win any modelling awards but works for me.
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Re: Few questions!
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2019, 03:13:35 PM »



road-improvements by Rail Squid, on Flickr
It might not win any modelling awards but works for me.

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  THIS

this is a great picture of the buildings being rooted to the ground with a foundation, its exactly what Mr The Squid says.  Its especially effective when the ground is sloped and the foundations is embedded in the ground leveling the base for the building.

 

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