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Re: Hello from Eggmarine
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2019, 08:08:48 PM »
Welcome aboard @Eggmarine and Happy New Year. Lots of good info to trawl here! Any track plans yet?




Hello and Happy New Year, here's my trackplan (if it's worked). I've made a few changes not reflected in the plan such as the upper level return loop deleted to make operations more interesting and the sidings on the left simplified.
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Re: Hello from Eggmarine
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2019, 08:14:16 PM »
Your original post said the plan was a bit crowded. It certainly looks like that with the plan as shown above. However, you also described it as a stacked roundy roundy and in that context, I stick with my original comment - "sounds interesting" and I look forward to see how it all develops.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Hello from Eggmarine
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2019, 09:02:09 PM »
Your original post said the plan was a bit crowded. It certainly looks like that with the plan as shown above. However, you also described it as a stacked roundy roundy and in that context, I stick with my original comment - "sounds interesting" and I look forward to see how it all develops.  :thumbsup:

Hi dannyboy, the aim is to try and have a lot of operating potential on the one layout. I've also got a small fiddle planned which will branch from the non scenic tracks on the right. I should be able to run express trains to the terminus, with suburbans/dmus stopping also at the intermediate station. Parcels will also run into the terminus, while freight goes to the yard on the right and trip workings are shunted up and dispatched to the sidings on the left (could end up being a corner of a steel works or chemical plant, steel works would be more black country i think). I should keep me busy and it's definitely more about letting my imagination run wild than sticking to a prototype.

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Re: Hello from Eggmarine
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2019, 09:15:38 PM »
I applaud those modellers who can have a prototypical layout, era and/or location wise, but I am with you on "letting my imagination run wild".  :thumbsup:
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Re: Hello from Eggmarine
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2019, 12:19:16 AM »
Hi Eggmarine,
Looks good! My little Hogwarts layout is a similar size and equally packed, and I went multi-level. I couldn’t make it out on the track plan but have you considered gradients and clearances of track?

I had some nasty trial and error experiences with gradients too steep for my locos and had to add in another helix loop to enable my trains to make it up the slope to my higher level station. I’d recommend 1 in 30 as a minimum on a straight and less on a curve!

Clearance - anything from 32 to 44mm above track, but best test your stock! You can get away with very narrow clearances if it’s on hidden track by glueing the upper level track to 2mm plasticard and supporting that either side of the “flyover”, but if it’s visible you’ll need more room for a plate or girder bridge for example.

Those curves - You shouldn’t have too many problems with runnng trains on the curves I’m guessing with 1980s era bogey stock but again make sure to leave enough gap between double tracks on any tight curves (again test a markup with your longest coaches to avoid clashes) and between track and scenery!

Hope that helps- just sharing where I went wrong....  :worried:

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Re: Hello from Eggmarine
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2019, 12:55:00 AM »
Looks interesting!

I second the warning(s) about gradients, though as your train will be on the shorter side you can get away with steeper ones. But the only way to find out is to test. With the hidden sections on the right, it might be challenging to coordinate the various gradients and supports involved (been there, done that).
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Re: Hello from Eggmarine
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2019, 10:32:12 AM »
Hi Eggmarine,
Looks good! My little Hogwarts layout is a similar size and equally packed, and I went multi-level. I couldn’t make it out on the track plan but have you considered gradients and clearances of track?

I had some nasty trial and error experiences with gradients too steep for my locos and had to add in another helix loop to enable my trains to make it up the slope to my higher level station. I’d recommend 1 in 30 as a minimum on a straight and less on a curve!

Clearance - anything from 32 to 44mm above track, but best test your stock! You can get away with very narrow clearances if it’s on hidden track by glueing the upper level track to 2mm plasticard and supporting that either side of the “flyover”, but if it’s visible you’ll need more room for a plate or girder bridge for example.

Those curves - You shouldn’t have too many problems with runnng trains on the curves I’m guessing with 1980s era bogey stock but again make sure to leave enough gap between double tracks on any tight curves (again test a markup with your longest coaches to avoid clashes) and between track and scenery!

Hope that helps- just sharing where I went wrong....  :worried:

Hi Darrwest, the layout is under construction at the moment and the lower level track is laid  and i've built the gradient up to 55mm above baseboard level. The rise is over 1800mm so that equates to about 3% although it's a bit steeper on the straights and less on the curves. My class 47 can tow 6 coaches up there no problems but a coach won't roll down on it's own instead it binds on the curves which demonstrates how curves make the gradients worse! So it's all working so far, but my next challenge is to build the station neck which means i need to position point motors away from the track underneath. At the moment i'm thinking paperclip levers leading from the motors which i saw somewhere.

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Re: Hello from Eggmarine
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2019, 11:50:04 AM »
I really like the track plan but think the sharply curved loop at the right from the top level to the lower level will be too much for some locos. Clearance wise I'd be OK with 44mm (seems to be the norm for 2" timber now) unless your locos have pantographs.
I hope you can easily access all that hidden track. You just know that's where something will stop/derail :uneasy:

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Re: Hello from Eggmarine
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2019, 10:39:46 AM »
Hi Eggmarine
For the station neck where you can't get access from underneath or have limited space, Peco also do a surface mounted point motor that operates sideways - see https://peco-uk.com/products/side-mounted-turnout-motor - It is built for OO/HO but I have it working fine on my N gauge points. You just need to cut the mounting lugs off on the side nearest the point to get close enough and it'll fit. Or as you say use a standard PM and use a short stiff wire like a paperclip to connect the motor arm to the point, and you can then hide the point motor under a building, platform, scenery etc. (If you do this one tip that works well is to shape a slight V in the wire so it has some give in it also, like —^— , which helps especially with sprung points).

 

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