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Re: Coniston
« Reply #225 on: May 14, 2019, 07:11:21 AM »
Morning chris. Was plastikard used? Constructing that structure and those platforms must have been a challenge. The photns give it a real feel for the place

Good morning, no, not much plastikard so far.

The platforms were made as I described further back up the thread;
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=43692.msg566014#msg566014
I did use a bit of plastikard for the platform ramps but that's all.

The station buildings and train shed structure is all card, in much the same way as I did the bridge at the southern end and all the walls on the scenery.

I designed each part in Photoshop (other graphics software is available) and printed it out onto a good quality 160gsm card with my laser printer, then stuck the resulting print onto thick, 2-2.5mm, fairly dense card (actually the liners from old ring binders, simply because that's what I had available) before sticking the various parts together. The slate walls are from my photos of various walls taken on site. This method gives me a far better end result than my painting skill would if I were to have used plastikard - it also means that If I make a mistake (eg cut something too far) I can simply print out another copy.

For the windows in the dormers and the louvres in the tower, I printed each piece out twice, cutting the frames area out of one and the glazed areas out of the other before glueing the two together and then onto the backing card so that the frames are recessed a little behind the wall - not that it shows up much at this scale. The thick card had even larger holes cut out of it so I could insert the glazing material - some form of clear, rigid plastic that I had to hand.

The glue I'm using is what I've found to be a rather good cyanoacrylate - pretty quick but not not too quick setting with a degree of gap filling and sticks like crazy. Once it's set the only way to get things apart is to destroy one, if not both, surfaces. It's the use of this glue that has allowed me to progress so quickly, because the "wait for drying" time is so short.

Because this structure has to be removable - it spans a baseboard joint - just card alone isn't, I feel, going to be durable enough considering that the only connection between the two sides is the train shed roof. The same applies to plastikard, I think. Therefore I made a framework comprising a strip of 5mm plywood inside the walls either side of the train shed, linked with lengths of brass rod/tube bent to shape. The end ones are inserted into holes drilled vertically down through the ply strips and give the overall strength whilst another three are simply glued to the top edge of the ply to prevent the walls flexing. Two more are glued on to as diagonals to keep the structure square. Finally, I have two brass rod pegs sticking out from the bottom of the platform 2/3 wall which engage in tubes let into the platform to ensure that the structure goes back in the right place and doesn't move around.
The card walls are then glued to the plywood ones.

When it's finished I have some work to do to fit it to the baseboard neatly. It sits on the platforms fine but I didn't get some of the ground levels behind correct so will need to build the ground up in some places so that the structure sits properly on the ground as well. I will have to cheat in one aspect, unfortunately. I didn't realise that the slate wharf track was actually on a higher elevation than the platform tracks, so I can't now get the station entrance level with the ground, it'll have to have steps up to it  :veryangry:

One great thing with doing the walls in Photoshop (other graphics software is available)  is that I can do all sorts of fun things should I wish. For example, I've put a load of posters and noticeboards along the visible inside wall of the train shed, adding them to the print instead of sticking them on afterwards.
 The very front one, a chalkboard, actually reads "Millom Railway and Scale Modellers Open Day June 1st 10am to 4pm All welcome" and really is legible provided that one has 100/20 vision or very strong specs and a magnifying glass  :laugh3:

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Re: Coniston
« Reply #226 on: May 14, 2019, 07:38:11 AM »
thank you.i must have missed that bit of thethread. nevertheless impressive stuff
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« Reply #227 on: May 14, 2019, 07:48:07 AM »
thank you.i must have missed that bit of thethread. nevertheless impressive stuff

No, you must have forgotten about it - because you thanked me for it in the very next post  :P


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« Reply #228 on: May 14, 2019, 07:51:05 AM »
must have done. just need some real coal for those private owner wagons chris
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« Reply #229 on: May 14, 2019, 08:18:05 AM »
must have done. just need some real coal for those private owner wagons chris

In hand - well, in a jar for now :thumbsup:

Don't want too much actually. In retrospect, I overfilled the coal staithes in the yard so another delivery so soon would look rather odd. The majority of the Trumpton set will have to appear that they've just been unloaded.

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Re: Coniston
« Reply #230 on: May 14, 2019, 08:23:27 AM »
That is all looking extremely good.
I love the station with its overall roof and curved platform on the outside which make the whole thing pleasing to the eye and which is something a bit unusual and different from the norm.
Excellent progress.
If it looks right then it most probably is right.


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« Reply #231 on: May 14, 2019, 08:39:20 AM »
That is all looking extremely good.

Thanks, I'm pleased with the way it's going.

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I love the station with its overall roof and curved platform on the outside which make the whole thing pleasing to the eye and which is something a bit unusual and different from the norm.

That was one of the attractions that lead to me deciding to have a go at it - along with the surprisingly complex track layout and the fact that it's relatively local to me, only about half an hour's drive away even on the less than optimum roads we have around here.

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Re: Coniston
« Reply #232 on: May 14, 2019, 08:56:01 AM »
Agree with martin. Pp. Curved roof looks superb
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Re: Coniston
« Reply #233 on: May 14, 2019, 11:02:47 AM »
Curved roof looks superb

Hmm, that's a tad annoying, it's supposed to be straight

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Re: Coniston
« Reply #234 on: May 14, 2019, 11:16:30 AM »
Im not good with architecture. I meant the bit just under the roof just above the trains' roofs . The curved bit what i meant
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« Reply #235 on: May 14, 2019, 12:03:21 PM »
Im not good with architecture. I meant the bit just under the roof just above the trains' roofs . The curved bit what i meant

Ah, you mean the arch at the northern end.
Phew, I thought you meant that I'd managed to get (and failed to notice) a curve in the entire structure.

The original train shed was only about half the length and both ends had flat-topped openings in the screens similar to, but smaller than, that at the southern end as shown in my model. The north end opening was even smaller because only platform 1 was a through road. Platform 2 ended at stop blocks just before the screen. At that time the front of the train shed ended level with the back of the goods shed, which was a separate structure.

A bit under 20 years after opening, they extended the platform 2 road to be a second through road, as well as roughly doubling the length of the entire train shed, by lining the front up with the front of the goods shed (also enlarging that) and combining the goods shed, station building and train shed into a single structure. However, the original screen at the northern end was too narrow to accommodate two through lines and platforms so they put in the arch, constructed from old rails, and filled in between that and the roof with timber and windows.

I like the way they did it, TBH. The two ends have similarity but also a nice contrast in appearance.

The extremely curved third platform was added about 4 years later, along with a waiting shelter and canopy attached to the outside of the train shed. Because of the extreme curvature, that platform wasn't very popular with the operators and didn't get a lot of use, apparently.
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Re: Coniston
« Reply #236 on: May 14, 2019, 12:12:37 PM »
sorry


thats what i meant, brain failure ! and   I meant the arch at the northern end. thank you for the history chris - fascinating
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Re: Coniston
« Reply #237 on: May 14, 2019, 09:58:04 PM »
That is looking amazing.

Just shown it to the wife "think it looks familiar" was the response

Yes, I've shown you photos of what it looked like and we usually park the car there (pointing at the loading wharf that's now car park)

"will yours look as good as that?"


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Re: Coniston
« Reply #238 on: May 15, 2019, 06:36:13 AM »
That is looking amazing.

Thanks, mate.

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Just shown it to the wife "think it looks familiar" was the response
Yes, I've shown you photos of what it looked like and we usually park the car there (pointing at the loading wharf that's now car park)


That's brilliant, just the sort of reaction I'm hoping for - it shows I must be getting it right.

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"will yours look as good as that?"

Oh dear, does that mean that one of us could be going to in the doghouse?
;)


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Re: Coniston
« Reply #239 on: May 15, 2019, 05:05:27 PM »

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Just shown it to the wife "think it looks familiar" was the response
Yes, I've shown you photos of what it looked like and we usually park the car there (pointing at the loading wharf that's now car park)


That's brilliant, just the sort of reaction I'm hoping for - it shows I must be getting it right.

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"will yours look as good as that?"

Oh dear, does that mean that one of us could be going to in the doghouse?
;)


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You've got me wishing I'd built Lakeside, got swayed by streamlined coronations and roundy roundy - would probably have trains running by now if I'd done it though.

 

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