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Author Topic: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane  (Read 5188 times)

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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #120 on: May 24, 2019, 02:53:01 PM »
Strangely there is some discussion on the exact date.
Hornby brought out their crane in red in 1970 IIRC and that was a new livery then.
Previously Hornby produced a black clerestory coach which was replaced in their breakdown crane set with a new Thompson brake in red.
So I think you can do black until about 1970.
Itís different for other colours like gulf red (early 60s) and olive (early 70s to 80s) and yellow (late 80s) but I think you can mix black and red and red and yellow if needed.
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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #121 on: May 24, 2019, 02:57:47 PM »
Probably when some accountant found a source of cheap red paint.
My accountant is very good. Donít knock accountants.
Now if you had said procurement Iíd be there with you. Evil people. Allegedly 😇

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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #122 on: May 24, 2019, 03:03:53 PM »
Probably when some accountant found a source of cheap red paint.
My accountant is very good. Donít knock accountants.
Now if you had said procurement Iíd be there with you. Evil people. Allegedly 😇

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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #123 on: May 24, 2019, 03:09:04 PM »
Probably when some accountant found a source of cheap red paint.
My accountant is very good. Donít knock accountants.
Now if you had said procurement Iíd be there with you. Evil people. Allegedly 😇

I feel there may be some 'hair splitting' occurring here...

My male pattern baldness is just an extreme version of split ends.
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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #124 on: May 24, 2019, 03:26:43 PM »
Probably when some accountant found a source of cheap red paint.
My accountant is very good. Donít knock accountants.
Now if you had said procurement Iíd be there with you. Evil people. Allegedly 😇

I feel there may be some 'hair splitting' occurring here...

My male pattern baldness is just an extreme version of split ends.
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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #125 on: May 24, 2019, 04:22:03 PM »
Probably when some accountant found a source of cheap red paint.

Or when some berk had been asked to order x litres of buffer beam paint, but misread the instruction and ordered gallons  :laugh3:

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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #126 on: May 24, 2019, 04:25:43 PM »
Or when the fat controller said

"lost it have you, i'm going to paint it bright red the next time"  :D

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« Reply #127 on: May 25, 2019, 10:17:55 AM »
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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #128 on: May 29, 2019, 12:35:22 PM »
My crane arrived this morning!  :claphappy:

Opted for a BR Black version.

Not taken it out of the box yet but it does look very nice.

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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #129 on: May 29, 2019, 12:51:45 PM »
My crane arrived this morning!  :claphappy:

Opted for a BR Black version.

Not taken it out of the box yet but it does look very nice.

Dave G

What era do you run daveg ?

I'm end of steam, start of diesel. Would Black be the correct version for that period ?

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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #130 on: May 29, 2019, 12:56:39 PM »
My crane arrived this morning!  :claphappy:

Opted for a BR Black version.

Not taken it out of the box yet but it does look very nice.

Dave G

What era do you run daveg ?

I'm end of steam, start of diesel. Would Black be the correct version for that period ?

Craig

Yep - that's my era too. Black works from 1948-1965/70.
Of course you dont have to repaint the crane exactly when the colour change was, as its not exactly a top link loco :)
Best
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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #131 on: May 29, 2019, 01:26:36 PM »
I have locos and rolling stock from (generally) Eras 3 to 5.

Difficult choice for me as I do the final days of GWR and SR plus several 'preserved' locos.

Does look the business!

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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #132 on: June 11, 2019, 06:36:21 PM »
we had Osbornes sample version in BR Black on our layout at the Kettering show at the weekend.

I thought the crane looked rather nice, painting and decals were in need of improvement as they were wonky etc but being a sample i guess that was to be expected!

here are my pro and cons of the crane: -

Pros
-Looked smart
-fills a missing area in british railway modelling for a few eras
-various liveries available
-easily pulled by any locomotive

cons
-far too light! couldnt propel the set into a siding without it derailing due its lack of weight
-permanently coupled throughout, made it difficult and awkward to pick up etc
-jib can only be in the down position otherwise the strings go nowhere in the up position
-needed a major cleanup, all the 3D print lines were clearly visible, paint was rushed and not tidy at all, decals where either wonky or badly placed, again this could have been due to it being a sample issue, but still it doesnt look good when your trying to show it off and its not a presentable model.

do i think its worth the £150 price tag? Going off the one we had, i would say no! IF, and thats IF, they are like the one we had, then its not worth the money due to modifications you have to make just to make it presentable and useable in both directions.

I think Osbornes have done a great job getting one out dont get me wrong, but it lacks that final bit to make it a product worth that price in my opinion.
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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #133 on: June 11, 2019, 07:49:04 PM »
Hello Portland Docks
My first crane was chalk and cheese compared with my second.
The first one, as documented above, had a poorer paint finish and the wheels of the main chassis were falling out. The wagon would not shunt because of alignment difficulties. My replacement is however perfect in finish and operation.
As these are effectively bespoke built kits, I think buyers would say something for the price paid, if they were not happy.
Your sample would seem to be somewhere between my two versions.
Also if you want a working crane you can repaint a Minitrix or Arnold model for example. I thought the idea of the Osborns crane was one that would work in a train, and my second model certainly does that. I donít want to play breakdown trains. If I did Iíd buy the old Hornby OO crane.
There is a cost-benefit issue too. The more Osborns spend on product development the more expensive it will be.
I think itís a fair price for a large complex but inevitably low production numbers model, and the 3D printed and laser cut design is a good compromise.
Mine also had no visible print lines so perhaps yours was from a different batch.
I donít think you can compare 3D models with injection moulding as they are clearly different and designed for different production quantities.

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Re: Osborns Models 3D Ransomes & Rapier 45 ton breakdown crane
« Reply #134 on: June 18, 2019, 03:58:03 PM »
Well it's been two weeks since I returned my crane which arrived with a banana shaped wagon. Generally it was lovely but for £150 a little quality control is called for.
No response to an email asking for an update and the phone just rings out when I try that.
I'll email again later in the week as I really want to have this model but if that doesn't elicit a response then I'll have to get PayPal involved.
Real shame.
Cheers Colin

 

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