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Online GrahamG

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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2019, 12:19:18 PM »
I too would change the facing crossover with a trailing one as suggested by Newportnobby.
One thing I'm always puzzled by is the comments, which I've also seen elsewhere on the Forum, regarding the direction of the 'up' or 'down' line. Of course UK railway practice is for left hand running, but on our layouts the 'up' or 'down' lines can be the builders choice, subject to the left hand running rule. When viewing a real railway they are different directions, depending on which side of the track we are standing. In general, 'up' trains travel towards London and 'down' trains away from the capital.
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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2019, 01:23:33 PM »
I think I'd take out the facing crossover (circled in red) and put in a trailing one (shown in red).
The facing crossover seem to serve not much purpose except to make things run 'wrong line' whereas a trailing one could release the engineers train from it's siding onto the up line if required :hmmm:



Your right there, I'll definitely implement that!

Maybe with that addition I can move the entry to the Relief up a little, replace it with a single slip on the UP and a LH turnout on the DOWN, that'd remove the need for a crossover before the entry to the relief, allowing movements from relief onto both the UP and DOWN lines.

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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2019, 02:49:51 PM »
Yup - that works for me :thumbsup:

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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2019, 03:10:59 PM »
are you modelling rule 1 fictitious ?

any particular era ?

what controls will you be using ?

thanks
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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2019, 05:29:52 PM »
are you modelling rule 1 fictitious ?

any particular era ?

what controls will you be using ?

thanks

Modelling some where fictitious along the WR and a large range of years from early 60s to late 70ís as thatís what most of my collection consists off but Iím sure there will be some rule 1 purchases along the way!  never going to be exhibited just something for my stock to actually get out of its boxes for.

Control for the moment will be DCC via a NCE powercab as I really got along with it from the moment I bought one, point control via cobalts


Yup - that works for me :thumbsup:

Cheers NPN!

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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2019, 06:11:55 PM »
thanks look forward to progress and there are plenty of transition period modellers and indeed WR / BR enthusiasts
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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2019, 06:54:14 PM »
I must admit that I find the whole 'NO FACING POINTS' rule/wisdom incredibly simplistic and annoying  :D

Even on lines with kettles and unfitted freights there were plenty of facing points, like at every junction.

So what was the actual practice? I assume something like don't use a facing point on a running line when a trailing point will be sufficient, like when accessing a siding.

As was said earlier, 'I don't see how to create a fiddle yard without facing points', exactly, all of the big marshalling yards were full of facing points as well.

And on the modern railway with facing point locks there is even less reason to worry about facing points.

Anyhow rant over.

Looks like a nice plan, and given the era I agree about the facing/trailing crossover.

Regards,

John P

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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2019, 10:10:31 PM »




Evening guys,

Just made some amendments as per the advice today. Looks like it flows much better in terms of operation now, and good news is it still fits on the baseboard top that's already cut!

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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2019, 10:14:06 PM »
Looking a lot better
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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2019, 01:44:04 PM »
Not sure about that as it looks as if the goods relief line can't be accessed from the clockwise outer (Up) line :hmmm:

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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2019, 08:19:53 PM »
Not sure about that as it looks as if the goods relief line can't be accessed from the clockwise outer (Up) line :hmmm:

Sorry Anyrail is a bit behind, FineTrax now has a 1in6 single slip, however its not in Anyrail yet so had to use a 1in6 diamond to represent the single slip

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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2019, 08:55:54 PM »
OK. Understood.

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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 01:29:32 AM »
Looking interesting! Two small things: first of all, I suggest moving the scenic break at the right hand platform side inwards somewhat to prevent the curvature of the track immediately beyond the scenic break from showing too obviously in the angle of the carriages in the scenic section.

Secondly, I recommend doubling your fiddle yard capacity, or at least increasing it as much as you can: would you really be satisfied if you could only run up to 7 different trains through your station? The rest of the railway network is vast, so large storage yards are usually the way to go.

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Re: New Unnamed Layout
« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 09:12:00 PM »
Looks like a great plan. I looked up Blueball Summit and just finished reading the construction thread over at RMWeb. That is some fantastic modeling!

 

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